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Jobban Appeal

Post by Tristan63 » 25 Jul 2015, 23:41

Beyond ID: Tristan63

Character name: Benjamin Werry

Admin who jobbaned you: Apop

Initial duration: Infinite

Duration remaining: Infinite

Reason for ban: Being a shitty commander

Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots): Their is no evidence required as i do admit to doing shitty commander things, but initially when they said i made a custom ID and shit was false, and at the end i blew myself up but not trying to kill marines. The marines just flat out hated me for no reason that round and it was pretty awful to get it topped off with a jobban so i got pretty angry and did bad things so im sorry and I will refrain from doing shitty things as commander (or anything) unless RP'd out correctly.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Feweh » 25 Jul 2015, 23:46

Last night I was commander during the Alpha testing, you were the Alpha SL and I sent you to explore the cave system.

Your ENTIRE squad mutinied against you literally 5 minutes within being on the planet. At first I thought they were incompetent and just being idiots but then I found out that it was within.... Why did this mutiny against your leadership you ask?

You fucking shot one of your squad members because he wasn't listening to you, YOU SHOT ONE OF YOUR MARINES AS A SL. This caused all of them to become enraged and spam radio with "I REFUSE TO FOLLOW ORDERS FROM OUR SQUAD SL".

They then shot you multiple times and you had to rush back to Sulaco. You complicated my leadership for stupidity and showed you can't even lead a damn Squad.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Tristan63 » 25 Jul 2015, 23:53

Pink wrote:Last night I was commander during the Alpha testing, you were the Alpha SL and I sent you to explore the cave system.

Your ENTIRE squad mutinied against you literally 5 minutes within being on the planet. Why did this mutiny against your leadership?

You fucking shot one of your squad members because he wasn't listening to you, YOU SHOT ONE OF YOUR MARINES AS A SL.

They then shot you multiple times and you had to rush back to Sulaco. You complicated my leadership for stupidity and showed you can't even lead a damn Squad.
This was from your point of view. For me he came up after me and aimed a pistol at me with aim intent and said "YOU LEFT US BEHIND" And i said "I said im not going back for slackers" Then he shot me so i pelted him with my M4A1 Taking fire from everywhere and getting stabbed by him was bad, But look at the round before that when I was alpha SL and we successfully held the Geo-thermals room from an alien attack while others at the LZ got decimated.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Youbar » 26 Jul 2015, 01:57

If you read the rules, you'd see that creating custom IDs is banned. You'd also find bombing yourself (as in, griefing) is against the rules too. I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you said - I spent as much effort reading your post as you did creating it.
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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by SASoperative » 26 Jul 2015, 13:15

I don't have any type of evidence here besides your word here because I honestly can not scrape anything out of logs about this... And I am sure Apop had good reason to if he did this. He is normally very fair with his punishments.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Tristan63 » 26 Jul 2015, 14:45

Youbar wrote:If you read the rules, you'd see that creating custom IDs is banned. You'd also find bombing yourself (as in, griefing) is against the rules too. I'm sorry if I misunderstood what you said - I spent as much effort reading your post as you did creating it.
Courtesy of your local minimod Youbar (TM).

Thing is I never made one but was still blamed for it for no reason. And when i tried to ask who had it or what it said they didn't tell me so i was kinda blind to the situation.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Feweh » 26 Jul 2015, 15:17

Tristan63 wrote: This was from your point of view. For me he came up after me and aimed a pistol at me with aim intent and said "YOU LEFT US BEHIND" And i said "I said im not going back for slackers" Then he shot me so i pelted him with my M4A1 Taking fire from everywhere and getting stabbed by him was bad, But look at the round before that when I was alpha SL and we successfully held the Geo-thermals room from an alien attack while others at the LZ got decimated.



Look in all honesty, you're not a terrible squad leader. I was over-watching you and you did follow my objectives and commands properly.. however you suffer from one of the most common issues most players do, immaturity.

When you're upset or angered you do illogical things because you can't handle the situation properly. This causes you to make bad decisions, as example... shooting your squad mate and the entire reason Apophis banned you for was because of immature actions and things.

Unfortunately, this is attitude issue and something that will only improve OVER TIME. Which is why as much as you promise you won't do certain situations again.. you're still too immature to handle the position of commander.

Besides for all this, from what I understand commander will be white-listed upon release anyways and having a job-ban from Commander would most likely negate your application in the future.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by SASoperative » 29 Jul 2015, 01:10

I am going to have to go with denied for now. Maybe in the future but for now what pink says is true. Over time it will become better. When we see you improve we will probably remove the job ban

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Tristan63 » 29 Jul 2015, 03:19

SASoperative wrote:I am going to have to go with denied for now. Maybe in the future but for now what pink says is true. Over time it will become better. When we see you improve we will probably remove the job ban
This is also from RO, XO, LO, And CMO not just commander

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by SASoperative » 29 Jul 2015, 13:42

Tristan63 wrote: This is also from RO, XO, LO, And CMO not just commander
Well the odds are yes you were banned from those as our staff saw you to not fit the criteria to effectively play as a command role.

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by SASoperative » 31 Jul 2015, 17:12

I am going to have to go with denied for now. Maybe in the future considering you may have matured by than. This has been resolved and will be moved in approximately 10 hours

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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by Redfield5 » 01 Aug 2015, 11:18

I know I am very late to the party, but I'd like to offer up my own testimony to his sub-par Command abilities.

During a previous Alpha round, Werry was our esteemed Commander, and I was but a lowly standard, harassing some other grunts for taking the jet pod and fucking around, not following a single order. They taunted me when I told them to get to work, so then I grabbed an axe and forcibly destroyed the pod, ending their fun. The two Marines then tried and failed horribly to jump me, at which point they began to call me rogue over the radio, though eyewits at the scene said otherwise. Werry dispatched the MPs, so I decided to meet them there to explain my story, with one of the shitheads that tried to jump me in tow, blathering about how I tried to murder him. I returned with the reasonable MP to the Sulaco and surrendered my weaponry without a word, hoping to explain the situation. I was afforded that luxury, for a few seconds.

Then, Werry decides to micromanage the investigation and immediately takes the side of the shithead, not even allowing me to explain myself nor considering the testimony of the eyewits. Long story short, it ended with me escaping from the Brig, getting caught and given a custom ID, getting shot to death by misunderstood Marines, and then cloned by Milako.
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Re: Jobban Appeal

Post by SASoperative » 01 Aug 2015, 14:58

Yep that sums up everything I need to know still for a denied. Thank you for your input. This has been resolved and moved

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