Clarrification of Ripleys

[Gentlefood]

Can we have clarified, somewhere official, what Ripleys are and aren't. And what they can and cannot do.

Getting a bit tired of marines arguing back and forth between cargoloaders and 'flexible mech platforms'. As an aside, this is unrelated to my suggestion thread just getting tired of comms being filled with pointless bickering.

Edit:

Unless contradicted here otherwise methinks this is law.

coroneljones Announces:
REMINDER FUCKNUGGETS
THE DAMN RIPLEY IS A CARGO LOADER
AKA CARGO MECH FOR LIFTING AND TRANSPORT
NO A COMBAT MECH
SO DONT USE THAT SHIT UNLESS YOU ARE LIKE..STUCK WITHOUT A WEAPON NEAR ONE AND A XENO IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE DOOR AND YOU ARE LONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT


NOW GET OUT OF THEM,THEY ARENT COMBAT MECHS

[Sargeantmuffinman]

I have no idea.

[XanderDox]

Real marines are taught to use unconventional methods or things that otherwise not be designed as weapons to kill things. Their entire purpose is to be an adaptable force.
This falls in line with Marine Medics not being able to do some surgeries... Like, if you're going to ignore what Marines are, don't call it Colonial Marines, the way the troops are currently forced to act is more in line with 'Colonial Infantry' or something of the like.

[Cobraman202]

Real marines are taught to use unconventional methods or things that otherwise not be designed as weapons to kill things. Their entire purpose is to be an adaptable force.
This falls in line with Marine Medics not being able to do some surgeries... Like, if you're going to ignore what Marines are, don't call it Colonial Marines, the way the troops are currently forced to act is more in line with 'Colonial Infantry' or something of the like.

I agree with the quote above. Taking away Ripleys use as a combat mech not only is boring and a bad idea, but also violates the lore as, marines would sometime use Riplyes to fight if they had no other option.

[Evilkyle24]

As a mainly Alien player, I think the marines should be allowed to use the Ripley's in combat. They might be dangerous, but they're melee only and slow, and they have to face you to fight you. Ravager vs. Ripley can be an even battle.

Hit and Run is the best tactic against Ripley's, and if the marines use them to barricade you off, go around or break em down. That's what Ravagers are FOR.

In an open environment, Ripley's can be defeated by a single runner by simply circling them, as they have to turn to face you before they can attack.

However, limiting the amount of materials that are available to build Ripley's or the number of Ripley's would also help prevent the marines from simply building ten of them and charging with those. Five is probably enough.

[XanderDox]

I'd also like to point out, currently Aliens have been receiving buffs, and even Marine Specialists can't match them (have you SEEN the damn Crusher? Those things are beasts) .

Either give us Ripley's to use, or a tank, or code that damn troop-carrier in engineering into working instead of being art.

[Jeser]

I like the idea of restricting amount of constructable Ripleys to 5. (Cargo's not counts, it is MINE!)

[coroneljones]

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Caterpillar_P ... ork_Loader

[Gentlefood]

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Caterpillar_P ... ork_Loader

Oh I know what they look like in lore. I just meant for the server. As I'm sure you were aware of last rounds back and forth "Flexible Mech System" that can mount weapons or Cargo Lifter.

[XanderDox]

"The Colonial Marines (as well as other groups, including the Iron Bears) also utilized the Exosuit, the military version of the P-5000.[3] Perhaps the most famous use of a Power Loader was when Ellen Ripley used one in desperation to engage a Xenomorph Queen in hand-to-hand combat aboard the USS Sulaco."

[coroneljones]

By militarised it ment modified to use guns,replacing the clamps with guns,like a incinerator unit or a smartgun


Also what i ment was,its a cargo loader in the lore? its a cargoloader ingame

[XanderDox]

A cargoloader can be used as a versatile weapon with a marine behind the controls. That is the point of Marines, to be versatile.

[Evilkyle24]

Jones, Cargo Loader in the movie was strong enough to go toe to toe with a queen and OVERPOWER HER.

[Feweh]

Right, but the point is not to have fucking 10 of them.

1-2 for a last ditch defense yes.

[Evilkyle24]

Already said five is the most I'd go.

[Dreviore]

Only thing that bothers me is when research builds a ton of them, and marines sit outside the shuttle waiting for the aliens to board and swarms them with all their newfound RIPLEYs

[K0NFL1QT]

Give us the limited resources to make a few combat mechs, then. We need something to stand toe to toe with a horde of T3's. At the moment, it's the Ripley because we have nothing else.

[Clayton_Kelly]

If marines can't handle the situation and are ovewhelmed, Ripleys are going to be used. A military commander will use whatever assets he has available when the current loadout isn't getting the job done. There is no reason to start a mission with Ripleys, but only after you suffer a lot of casualties.

[Evilkyle24]

To anyone wondering the logic of using a Ripley, it goes like this.

Hey, these things have claws that shred through our armor like its butter!
I know! I will use the GIGANTIC ROBOT COVERED IN METAL that is spaceworthy and strong enough to carry thousands of pounds of metal and rock! Then I can just use the hydraulic clamp I've seen lift tons and squeeze the aliens, that should break them open really easily.

[LordeKilly]

No. If you're a marine, don't use it. If staff are telling you it's not a combat mech, it's not, so don't use it like one. If you continue to insist, you're not going to have a good time.

But seriously though, screw the , "versitile marines" crap, because if that was a valid excuse, so would making chloral to combat them for a, "last ditch effort."

[Evilkyle24]

This shit is pissing me off. It needs to be in the rules or have some in game restriction, or something needs to be done about it in the gameplay itself.. Because currently the in game restriction is "Don't go in the mech to get away from aliens, or you will suffer SSD. Don't bitch about it on the forums, or you will suffer FORUM SSD."

[Cobraman202]

No. If you're a marine, don't use it. If staff are telling you it's not a combat mech, it's not, so don't use it like one. If you continue to insist, you're not going to have a good time.

That violates the lore though, and is just making the xeno's more overpowered. Already 1 runner can kill a Ripley in an open field, and right now, marines have no response to crusher rush on top of Xenos taking WAAAAYYYY to many bullets to kill. We see the marines in the comics, and in the movies if i remember correctly, use the Ripley as a last ditch effort.

[Evilkyle24]

No. If you're a marine, don't use it. If staff are telling you it's not a combat mech, it's not, so don't use it like one. If you continue to insist, you're not going to have a good time.

With all respect due to you as a member of the staff,

Fuck you.





Oh, and its been resolved. They are now ID locked to Cargo.

[Pillow]

I mean the only reason in the movie she was able to use it to fight the queen was because she had training on how to operate it. A standard marine would not know how to operate it well if at all. That and its not really meant to be used for combat as it is a cargo loader variant.

[Evilkyle24]

I mean the only reason in the movie she was able to use it to fight the queen was because she had training on how to operate it. A standard marine would not know how to operate it well if at all. That and its not really meant to be used for combat as it is a cargo loader variant.

Looked pretty easy to me. She pushes like three buttons, throws two switches, and then just moves around holding the grips. I think I could operate it.

I've ran a forklift without training, most heavy equipment like that takes about ten seconds to learn how to use in a basic manner. They are designed this way for a reason, since there's no reason to make it intentionally difficult to use.

Granted, you would be clumsy and have to read the clearly labeled switches and buttons to figure out what did what, so a delay would probably be realistic, and you'd be clumsy, but I think you could do it if you had to.