Ravager's can't charge riot shields

[Ordukai]

Bug Description: Ravager's are helpless when charging against the terrible foe of riot shields. For that matter, they can't even budge anyone holding them. It's like some ancient greek gift from the gods that imbues the wielder with the ability to stay firmly planted on the ground.

Steps to reproduce:
1.Grab a riot shield
2.Provoke a ravager
3.Run away
4.Laugh as he tries to charge you down

[HurttleTurtle]

The steps doe. <3 Priceless. I can see Stewie from Family Guy doing this and laughing with his laugh while running away

[DesFrSpace]

Ordukai, I think you should play Charger Crusher, break the shield like it's nothing.

[HurttleTurtle]

Because then you'd have to deal with them Running away from your charging and dodging it. I hate when they dodge me :c Makes me sad because then I go flying into a wall and get knocked down... *tears*

[DesFrSpace]

Ravager are good, but there are shield for reason .
The runner(xxx) has pounce the tree!

[HurttleTurtle]

I've recently notice that Praetorians are good as Shields if you're only getting shot by at most 2 people and has either Recovery or Guard pheromones active. I rush in and was getting shot by 2 people and still managed to break all the Tables and rush out with only losing half of my health. It wasn't until all 4 focused their fire directly at me. I died within a couple seconds...

[DesFrSpace]

Yep, the Runner is a different story, and should evolve first.

[Ordukai]

It's fine that there are shields, they can already block some of the ravager's attacks on a percentage basis. What's silly is something the size of a mech charging at you 4x as fast as a person runs and coming to a complete halt because you have a plastic, rectangular shield in hand.

I don't care how reinforced the plastic is, it's not a bloody energy shield from halo, at the very (VERY) least it shouldn't protect you when you're facing the opposite direction from the destruction train heading your way.

[HurttleTurtle]

Like you said earlier. Zeus probably sired all the Marines as Children and gave all their lives to Hera. To which she blessed them all with the magical shields.

But seriously. Thinking about what Ordukai is saying. It is a bit ridiculous that something so tiny can basically stop an Alien the size of a truck with claws and charging at speeds not possible for man. I mean, Ravangers can't exactly walk up to marines and push them down... they have charge to knock them over. You could at least make it where when the Ravangers charge someone with a shield. They both get knocked down. Because the Ravanger charges the Marine so the Marine will be pushed down, but since there's a shield up pushing back. The Ravanger would also be knocked down.

Don't know if that would be too op against Ravangers. Just throwing out and idea about the shield bug..

[Ordukai]

Retract that blasphemous statement immediately, Hurttle,, before anyone gets any ideas.

I can live with mines knocking ravagers down, which is infuriating enough already. But the idea that a human can repel a ravager with a shield, and cause it so much grief that it falls down is almost more absurd than the current situation.
You're a marine with a shield, not a judo master. And the trade off of "I get knocked down, you get knocked down" is not fair when one has 3 to one odds against the other, and those 3 have range. Better the current situation than that one :P

[HurttleTurtle]

Does the Ravager's charge do damage? If it does damage. They could make it where when it charges. The shield gets cut apart and the Marine would only do half damage since the shield would take the other half.

[UnknownMurder]

http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/File:Alien_an ... _Chart.jpg

Ravager would be Size of a Praetorian, but little bigger. Ravager should be able to charge at the Shield User down.

[DesFrSpace]

Then on that day Ordukai walk around with Plasma Shield. -.-
But it get ridiculous if the Aliens below T3 can rip the shield apart.

[TR-BlackDragon]

This is still an issue. No way should the shield be able to tank a ravager charge attack.

[snow5445]

This is still an issue. No way should the shield be able to tank a ravager charge attack.

So I bought a riot shield recently and had someone charge me with a pickup. Suprzingly the tuck came to a dead stop.

[Surrealistik]

Tell you what; Ravagers can take down shield users when Crushers get owned by orbital strikes and massive potassium bombs like they should.

[DesFrSpace]

^With that being said, I did like the shield to remain strong and not break. Ravager not being able to take down Shield?
That's a problem because it's a 1v1, where Shield user don't stand a chance. All I'm saying is, the Shield should reduce 50% damage.
Quite similar to any RPG games, Shield doesn't block attack 100%, but reduce incoming damage.
-written in 347 AM.

[Rahlzel]

Still an issue as of today. Keeping this up.

[DesFrSpace]

Months ago, sadly I do not walk around with shield. Shield was the stuff good against Runner.

[Wickedtemp]

Even if the shield was an energy shield that could stop a Ravager, the force of the impact would likely knock you down. If you didn't, you'd probably end up with a broken arm.

[DesFrSpace]

Ravager is good at the moment.... so is Crusher...
A adjustment of 100 pt. for SADAR 150 for Turret in Cargo.
Reasons: the pts are too high at the moment.

Note: Why am I bringing this up?
Basic infantry Marine are under-advantage vs greater number of aliens and the Sadar and Turrets are likely to get wiped first. That my opinion.

As for the shield: It is weak against Crusher and a jump from Ravager. Otherwise: RUNNER SHOULD not be breaking the shield. Logic?

[phil235]

Already fixed