TheKingThatWas Unban Appeal

[Telegnats]

Byond ID: TheKingThatWas

Character name: Telen Knatz

Admin who banned you: Speedybast

Initial duration: 24 hours

Duration remaining: 24 hours

Reason for ban: Reason: disrespect towards staff when unwarranted following clarification of the no-weapon rules for Medical Doctors. Had you have just removed the weapons from yourself and accepted the clarification, we would not have had an issue..

Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots):

The rules for suicide are a job ban - which was also administered by not documented. I did not disrespect staff.

http://imgur.com/OoTDSbM

Josh identified himself as an admin without proof. As far as I knew he was impersonating an admin and I will not listen to him. When Speedy messaged me I got rid of the rifle and committed suicide. That is a job ban, not a 24 hour ban.
Also, if Josh had identified himself as an admin properly in the first place, then I would of gotten rid of the rifle immediately and committed suicide just as I did when Speedy messaged me. When I told him that I would let the admins sort it out, I was not belligerent, nor was I rude. I told him to provide proof. If he is not currently playing as an admin then why should I believe him? If he can not provide me with proof then he should inform the current working admins and let THEM sort it out. In fact I was a few seconds away from reporting him for impersonation.

http://imgur.com/SUG7zUw
http://imgur.com/zVaLgOZ

[Complete Garbage]

I witnessed this; Although you did not disrespect Joshuu, you did make it apparent you haven't read the rules. The issue wan't in getting rid of the rifle, it was killing yourself after. Having the rifle in the first place was a bannable offense, I believe, and suicide-ing afterwards showed further disregard towards the rules.

[Telegnats]

I know, and after rechecking the rules I fully understand why the job ban was administered - but the problem is the 24 hour ban for disrespecting Staff. Which I maintain that did not do.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

Hi there.

Let me clear some stuff up.

I'm not upset you ignored me. I'm not offended at all. I don't think you were really that disrespectful to me, nor do I really care you second-guessed me as a staff member. That's all irrelevant to the situation.


What is relevant is what you did. It's pretty clear to me you haven't fully read the rules. Regardless whether or not I was an admin doesn't matter in the slightest. It doesn't matter if the person telling you is an admin or not, because breaking the rules is pretty binary. Either you are, or you aren't.

In short, you shouldn't have carried a weapon as a Sulaco doctor, and you definitely shouldn't have killed yourself directly after getting admin-PMed about it.



It's a 24 hour ban, so it's really just a slap on the wrist. But do try and read the rules in the future.

Thanks!

-Josh-

[Telegnats]

Wait, does that mean the ban was administered for the suicide or the disrespect?

[apophis775]

Yes, I believe the "disrespect" comes from the "well fine then" attitude of shooting yourself the moment you were told you couldn't have a gun.

It was a super childish thing to do. Basically the equalivent of "If I can't get my way, I'll ruin it for everyone". you could have easily Cryoed yourself to open the slot, but you suicided for no good reason, just because you were told you couldn't have a gun.

Next time, READ THE RULES. It takes 5 minutes to read the rules.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

Wait, does that mean the ban was administered for the suicide or the disrespect?

You'd probably have to ask SpeedyBST specifically, but you were banned for a mixture of the suicide and carrying a weapon as a doctor. Both of those are violations of the rules.

Hope that clarifies things up and answers your questions.

[apophis775]

Resolved, as the ban expired...

I'll allow 24 hours for additional comments.