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New pistol: VP70

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 00:57

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
This would add the VP70 pistol seen in the movies as an alternative to the M4A3 (Which is actually chambered in 10mm.) It would be a weaker burst fire alternative.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
When on 3 round burst, it has a higher DPS than the M4A3, but is effectively limited to 6 trigger pulls.
On the other hand, it can u used on semi-auto for lower ammo consumption at the expense of firepower.
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Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
Less powerful than the M4A3.
18 round magazine.
Variable semi-auto and 3 round burst.
Uses the sprite form the Stechkin.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by ChickenShizNit8 » 28 Nov 2015, 00:59

Don't we already have this pistol though?
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 01:00

It's not available to the marines and the stats are all wrong.
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Post by ChickenShizNit8 » 28 Nov 2015, 01:03

I don't see why it should be given to Marines....


It's pretty much just a PMC weapon to I enjoy it that way tbh :/
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Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 01:05

ChickenShizNit8 wrote:I don't see why it should be given to Marines....


It's pretty much just a PMC weapon to I enjoy it that way tbh :/
Canonically, the only person in the squad to carry the M4A3 was Vasquez who preferred the larger caliber of the older model. It was never used by Wey-Yu PMCs.
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Post by ChickenShizNit8 » 28 Nov 2015, 01:07

Not like we are ENTIRELY cannon at all times
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 28 Nov 2015, 01:46

Our canon is set 20 years before when Aliens would have taken place.

Technically speaking, the M4a3 would still be in service. We totally planned that, yes? (we didn't)

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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by Minijar » 28 Nov 2015, 07:07

The VP is in some maps but I am removing it today since it is so incredibly powerful and able to kill mos t3 in a single magazine.

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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 09:16

Minijar wrote:The VP is in some maps but I am removing it today since it is so incredibly powerful and able to kill mos t3 in a single magazine.
Is it the VP as described here? Without the burst fire, it should be as weak as pre-buff M4A3s.
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by Troika » 28 Nov 2015, 09:39

Why not just make it an alternate skin for the pistol?
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 10:11

Troika wrote:Why not just make it an alternate skin for the pistol?
Because it's a different pistol that fills a different role. Think of the difference between carrying an automatic Glock 17 and a Colt 1911. The 1911 will put a grapefruit sized hole in you, but the G17 will shred you to (metaphorical) pieces if you can land more than one hit.
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by apophis775 » 28 Nov 2015, 17:04

monkeysfist101 wrote: Because it's a different pistol that fills a different role. Think of the difference between carrying an automatic Glock 17 and a Colt 1911. The 1911 will put a grapefruit sized hole in you, but the G17 will shred you to (metaphorical) pieces if you can land more than one hit.
Someone has never seen an actual gunshot wound.

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Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 17:07

apophis775 wrote: Someone has never seen an actual gunshot wound.
Who? I have seen firsthand what a .45 can do at close range. The grapefruit comment was a hyperbole.
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by apophis775 » 28 Nov 2015, 17:37

It's not going to "put a grapefruit sized hole in you". Your going to get a dime-quarter sized hole at the entry, and depending on the type of round, golfball to baseball sized exit, unless you've got it directly put up to them.

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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by monkeysfist101 » 28 Nov 2015, 17:51

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Excuse me for exaggerating. I didn't think it was that big of an issue. Regardless, this is out of the scope of the suggestion.
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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 28 Nov 2015, 19:35

I'd prefer if we kept the weapons of the Colonial Marines fairly standard. Having too much weapon overlap causes confusion and would have the adverse effect of making the Colonial Marines feel more like a militia and less like a professional army.

I'm not opposed to replacing the M4a3 with the VP70, but having both would be disorderly.

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Re: New pistol: VP70

Post by apophis775 » 28 Nov 2015, 20:47

Yeah, I also like the M4a3. I MIGHT make the VP70 as the super-weak self defense pistol I was talking about, but probably not.

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