A choice that we must vote on...

[apophis775]

Here's the situation:

Near the end of a round, people tend to turn off Xeno Prefs and hope for a response team. The result of this, is that people who should burst (time to burst is around 5 minutes) don't burst, and their counters reset (giving them 2 additional minutes). The issue, is that these people can't be huggered and can EASILY fight against/resist the aliens as well as force the aliens to "babysit", especially when the aliens are waiting for them to burst for a final assault.

So, the options are:

Ghosting instead of bursting (always). When you hit Phase 4, you'll be ghosted at 1 tick before "burst". a message that says 'His eyes roll back into his head" will pop up.

An alternative, is that they'll just "die" if there are no candidates.

A final option, is to burst them into SSD LArve. This will, allow people to "join as Larva" from the main-menu and the IC menu.

Those are the options. We vote on them, and in a week, I put it in.

[TeknoKot]

I've never really used choice "join as larva", I think bursting SSD larvaes would be better, in case player decides its not worth waiting for response/whatever.

[coroneljones]

The SSD or die option seem the best

[TeknoKot]

If the SSD option would win however, should aliens be thinking about where to move the SSD larvaes for safety? I think drones/sentinels can do that job.

[Egorkor]

Ghosting will make them uncloneable,and killing them makes no sense lorewise, so +1 to bursting SSD larvae.

[Arachnidnexus]

SSD Larva option seems like the best option since many players refuse to play xenos.

[UnknownMurder]

How about an interval cool down for three minutes for the players. I support those SSD Larvas and my suggestion implemented.

-toggles to be Xeno
-Minute later, attempts to untoggle Xeno
-Unable, two minutes left before you can toggle.

[HalfdeadKiller]

What about the option to force them to be the larva?

[Arachnidnexus]

I'd rather not force marines to become larva since it gives them the opportunity to play recklessly and suicide as a runner out of spite.

Edit: Will force-ghosting them allow them to be cloned? And would the body then burst when a xeno ghost does appear? I'd still prefer the SSD larva option.

[Aredal]

I'm thinking that making them burst with an SSD larva is the best choice for both marines and aliens.

[Wickedtemp]

I'd rather not force marines to become larva since it gives them the opportunity to play recklessly and suicide as a runner out of spite.

That'd be breaking the rules, I'm fairly sure. So maybe in order to 'weed out' some of the more... "toxic" players that do that kind of thing, we COULD force them to be a xeno and if they just bum-rush marines and suicide immediately then we know who to report.

[monkeysfist101]

Welp, my phone decided that I clicked on kill them instead of spawning them as SSD. Seeing as I can't change it up top, I'll just type down here that I meant to vote for them spawning as an SSD larvae.

[Arachnidnexus]

There are players who will wait two hours for the chance at an ERT or cloning rather than playing xenos. Those players will likely ghost the instant they become a xenos which would cause the same result as option 3. If those players are smart they can simply evolve to T1 and then ghost to prevent a xeno player from easily entering the alien. Which would be a pain in the ass to prove was malicious, to be honest.

[Jack McIntyre]

No offense, but I don't think I could punish a player who does that out of spite after we force them to play xeno. I have rounds where I burst and go xeno and other rounds I rather not care to do it. Is it wrong for them to do that, yes, but do you think they would want to help out a side that they never wanted to be on in the first place? Heck they may even just ghost leaving the body in the hive and leaving you with the result of another SSD larva or as Arachnidnexus put it, they could just go T-1 then leave. I am not one to agree with forcing people to do what they don't want to do, they come on the server to play a game, not be forced to play something they may not want to play.

[Edgelord]

No offense, but I don't think I could punish a player who does that out of spite after we force them to play xeno. I have rounds where I burst and go xeno and other rounds I rather not care to do it. Is it wrong for them to do that, yes, but do you think they would want to help out a side that they never wanted to be on in the first place? Heck they may even just ghost leaving the body in the hive and leaving you with the result of another SSD larva or as Arachnidnexus put it, they could just go T-1 then leave. I am not one to agree with forcing people to do what they don't want to do, they come on the server to play a game, not be forced to play something they may not want to play.

This. When I first started playing I HATED playing xeno, like I would rather die with the off chance of being cloned than play as one. Now my attitude has changed, but you will not get good results if we force people into this role.

[SkyeAuroline]

Death or SSD larva.

Don't have people become their own larva, especially if they have it disabled. Some of us despise playing as xenos. Just a recipe for a bad time for everyone involved. If I'm not bursting well after the standard duration and I'm locked up in a checkerboard hive, I'm just gonna go do something else until the next round. Drop me into a larva without my consent, I'll just ghost and do the exact same thing. Don't force people to play "characters" (as if xenos even have any) that they don't want to.

[Wesmas]

SO, the burst as an SSD lava kills the player, and spawns a lava which someone can use by the joinlava button? Cause if thats the cause im + 1. Also, I would like different options for starting round as xeno, and bursting as one when hugged/ghosted, because I like playing xeno later on, but early game I find humans more enjoyable.

[RhMoore]

I like the SSD Larva option, aside from making sure that hosts are always useful, it reinforces the idea of making a better hive to drones and hivelords.

[Caryl]

What about NPC Larvae? Or Xenos?

[apophis775]

Ok, I'm working on the update. The way it will work is basically:

1. When it reaches the final part of stage 4, it will burst the host. If there is an available candidate, it will place them into the larva (going by who was dead longest)
2. If there is NOT a candidate, it will burst the larva, and set it as an "AFK" player. Anyone who's ghosted can join as the Larva, HOWEVER you will have to be dead for at least 10 minutes.

This should solve a LOT of the babysitting issues.

[Sadokist]

should burst em as an SSD Larvae so at least somebody can be the alien if they're ghosted already and waiting.

[herr_musky]

Voting for SSD since that's objectively the best option for reasons posts before me have gone into.

[Feweh]

The 10 minute cooldown needs to be reduced/removed.

[Lostmixup]

Is this really a choice? Like seriously? It's pretty obvious which one should be done. Also do 5 minutes.

[Sadokist]

Is this really a choice? Like seriously? It's pretty obvious which one should be done. Also do 5 minutes.

pfffff nu ur choice obvious