Field arrest

[Ninjah!]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): The ability for an SL to arrest a marine in the field.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Marines will be punished for not following orders, resulting in matines following orders. Also MP will actually have something to do.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): The SLs get a tazer, baton, cuffs, SecHud ( and a portable charger?). They would only be allowed to use the tazer and baton whilst deployed (via a new law or rule?). Only an arrest authorized by an MP or command would be consider legittimate, any unauthorized arrest would just be filed under assault or something along those lines. The arrested person would then be transferd to the MP for processing.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): work out some details and add the arrest gear to the vendor.

[Logi99]

No no no. I've seen terrible Sls and give bad orders. I'm normally a person who likes to solo aliens as a specialist and that's when I don't listen to orders. Being arrested for killing an alien solo is gonna be bs. -1

[Azmodan412]

Chain of events:

1. Specialist goes to rambo
2. Specialist kills two or three xenos
3. Xenos ambush and absolutely DESTROY the specialist
4. Specialist bursts.

[Allan1234]

No no no. I've seen terrible Sls and give bad orders. I'm normally a person who likes to solo aliens as a specialist and that's when I don't listen to orders. Being arrested for killing an alien solo is gonna be bs. -1

annnnnnnnnnnnnnd that's how you get banned! as rambo marines and solos are explicitly forbidden in the rules.

[ChickenShizNit8]

This would be helpful in some cases...

I could see SL's using this on idiotic marines who refuse to follow a single order (I've seen some do it out of spite...)
This could also help in cases of violent marines and allowing them some time to calm the fuck down.
This COULD be abused however by shitty SL's, so eh...

Neutral

[Logi99]

annnnnnnnnnnnnnd that's how you get banned! as rambo marines and solos are explicitly forbidden in the rules.

Well that's now right. Going solo was allowed before the new rules I believe. I'm not really sure.

[Edgelord]

No no no. I've seen terrible Sls and give bad orders. I'm normally a person who likes to solo aliens as a specialist and that's when I don't listen to orders. Being arrested for killing an alien solo is gonna be bs. -1

You admit to being a rambo marine who disobeys squad leaders and you disagree with this because it would allow SLs to make you pay for your bullshit? Is that what we're to take from that?

[Arachnidnexus]

This wouldn't be necessary if CM marines didn't make Hudson look like a paragon of discipline and obedience.

[Raptor1628]

It's unlikely the rest of the squad will stand by if the SL's giving orders like "Strip naked and dance through the trees," and then tries to arrest you, but if the SL is telling you to get back to the squad instead of running off to sate your kill boner, it's best to listen.

It'd be nice if everyone RPed marines that could follow an order worth a damn, but that's not going to happen. It would help if the SL had a flash or baton and some cuffs to actually detain marines. As is, it's highly unlikely a marine will hang around the FOB to be arrested by an MP. SLs that misuse them can be dealt with the same way as MPs that are arrest happy.

[Logi99]

You admit to being a rambo marine who disobeys squad leaders and you disagree with this because it would allow SLs to make you pay for your bullshit? Is that what we're to take from that?

Well not technically I like. It's just a one time I was told to scout by some idiot SL and the command were so shit they didn't even stop it. I was going back to the FOB then I came by a praetorian and I wasn't gonna run because I ain't no pussy so I just sadar'd it. I did solo aliens a few times but that wasn't in my will. The time I started liking soloing aliens was the time that SL gave me the shit scouting order even though he knew there was aliens. But yeah, say if the SL was like. "Scout alone we'll defend in the FOB." and your like "Sir what the fuck is this? Some suicide order you giving?" "Are you saying no to me!?" "Yes..." *Arrests marine because he didn't want to scout on his own.* Also i'm gonna actually lean to neutral, as: Smoke grenades are no use these days and only make the fighting worster for the marines. So handcuffing will work but were gonna probably need Admin Approval when arresting a marine for not listening to the order.

[Ninjah!]

Well not technically I like. It's just a one time I was told to scout by some idiot SL and the command were so shit they didn't even stop it. I was going back to the FOB then I came by a praetorian and I wasn't gonna run because I ain't no pussy so I just sadar'd it. I did solo aliens a few times but that wasn't in my will. The time I started liking soloing aliens was the time that SL gave me the shit scouting order even though he knew there was aliens. But yeah, say if the SL was like. "Scout alone we'll defend in the FOB." and your like "Sir what the fuck is this? Some suicide order you giving?" "Are you saying no to me!?" "Yes..." *Arrests marine because he didn't want to scout on his own.* Also i'm gonna actually lean to neutral, as: Smoke grenades are no use these days and only make the fighting worster for the marines. So handcuffing will work but were gonna probably need Admin Approval when arresting a marine for not listening to the order.

I doubt that an SL giving the order to go patrol would actually know how to do field arrests. And if he does then the order is likely issued with a reason. If it does happen that you are issued such a retarded order and he tries to arrest you chances are your squad woudn't just go with it. No admin approval would be needed just an order from the BO. If it does get abused you just ahelp it like any other issue.

[Sargeantmuffinman]

The SL HAD and I do mean HAD cuffs for some reason and I have only used them ONCE and only once to arrest a griefer.

But it should be dealt with by the MPs or something.

[Ninjah!]

The SL HAD and I do mean HAD cuffs for some reason and I have only used them ONCE and only once to arrest a griefer.

But it should be dealt with by the MPs or something.

The issue is that an MP sent to the field will be easily captured and no one actually ask for them to come down to the mission.

[Grypho]

In a real war, only way to make soldiers follow orders is to threaten with field execution and put it in effect if threatening doesn't work. An armed guy is not going to stand down so he can be cuffed.

[LordLoko]

As a SL main, +1 to this but with some exceptions:

I think we should have not only authorization from the CO/BO/XO but a rule forbidding arresting without the authorization since it could be easily abused by bad SLs.

No sechuds, they are supposed to be used only by MPs, SLs don't need that extra gear.

Equipment should be: taser, cuffs and flash.

Ps: rrmove gad granades

[Tristan63]

-1

This would get you shot very fast.

[Snypehunter007]

MPs exist for a reason. -1

[Heckenshutze]

If a grunt is being an asshole/jerk/douchebag/rambo/baldie/griefer etc. Just keep your shotgun close to you and when the first crossfire starts, take advantage of all the combat logs and point-blank the bitch.

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do not follow this advice

[forwardslashN]

This is for the MPs to take care of, as they are authorized to go groundside to perform arrests. Denied.