Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

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Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by Sanchez13 » 06 Feb 2016, 11:58

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Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):

Only allow Marine bullets to hit other marines if they either expressly click on them (just like the suicide action, but with other people at range) or use the burst verb for their guns (can be omitted or included if either would further balance the game). Explosives will be UNCHANGED.


Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):

Encourages and strengthens marine assaults due to less FF and more guys being able to shoot. Also discourages FF wounds that can weaken marine offensives, which tend to knock many marines out for at least much/most of the round and ENCOURAGES MARINE TURTLING as a result, due to a lack of men for assaults.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):

Too many times have I seen a marine offensive CRIPPLED, STALLED, and ROUTED due to friendly fire ALONE. I even possess a log that I'm willing to post upon request, of the marine side CRUSHING the aliens, but the narrow hallways and friendly fire (combined with sheer offensive momentum) caused nearly EVERYONE to die/be sent into critical conditon due to friendly fire. NOT the aliens, FRIENDLY FIRE. Marines should be more than capable of firing AROUND their buddies by leaning, crouching, and otherwise, though SS13 code sadly can't implement such a feature, so it seems that this is the current best alternative from my viewpoint. When you have five guys that can seemingly fit in a three-lane hallway/cave shoot each other regardless (EVEN WITH FIRING LINE TACTICS), it becomes absolutely ludicrous. By limiting friendly fire to expressly clicking on them and explosives (burst fire mode can also have an FF option), this should discourage marine camping and encourage marine assaults by allowing a squad's fire-power to be unaffected by capping the effective fire-power of marines due to squad size (as a consequence of friendly fire).

As an added note: most marines tend to neglect NOT shooting in the head, even in spite of many recommendations from veterans and newcomers alike.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):

Possibly similar to the suicide action and the smart gun, though it can be done on any character within your character's range. Can be alternately implemented in a different manner in the projectile revamp proposed by Abbysynth.
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Re: Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by forwardslashN » 06 Feb 2016, 13:36

-1
I am not a fan of this, and I die to FF more than I die to xenos.
Edit: Maybe I should clarify, I think CM could seriously benefit from updated gun dynamics rather than the suggestion posted. Abbysynth mentioned them as a future project, and I really want to see that happen. Turning off FF because it exists is not really a solution.
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Re: Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by Jason Smith » 06 Feb 2016, 17:43

I don't like this idea, I find it would change the scale and have marines win a lot more cause tons of people could shoot at one xeno standing in your way, With friendly fire the marines need to actually think before going in and shooting. Turning friendly fire off would not solve anything. -1
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Re: Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by Seehund » 07 Feb 2016, 16:17

Friendly fire is a very real danger, but it should be avoided with intelligent positioning, formations and tactics, not coding.
For this and the reasons above, -1
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Re: Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by Boltersam » 07 Feb 2016, 16:36

You're trained soldiers.
Everything wrong with this thread is in those three words.

If an alien fucks up, they die.

If a marine fucks up, someone else dies.
This does not need to be changed. -1.

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Re: Make Friendly Fire only with Burst/Explosives/If you Click on Them

Post by apophis775 » 09 Feb 2016, 15:31

Denied. Forever.

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