What to call putting a note on someone.

[Lostmixup]

Alright, so Ord and I had a disagreement about my choice for what to call putting notes on people. I called it "pinning" a note to the person and ord was like "that's dumb." So to settle this I've created this vote.

This should be a public vote for all, if it isn't please say so.

*The vote was updated. Jack suggested a third option so he is now in the running.

[Ordukai]

"That's dumb" doesn't capture either the scope or the magnitude of my rage at seeing this heretical note-taking-word upheaval . "Writing up" or even "Putting a note on" are far superior, not even including the travesty of comparing our dear and beloved players to "Those corky boards you find at school that people pin stuff to", or of fantasizing of jabbing them with each and every well deserved note you place.

Indeed, these treacherous comments are but the passing of the wind when compared to suddenly putting up a vote that completely under-represents my side and then creating a call to arms on the server with but a 5 second warning to your opponents. And then to lock those innocently misled votes in, so that I have to scramble to create an argument of my own and constantly update it via editing to prevent further aberrations as kidnapping the minds of our community so that you can bleed them with sharp, poky and indeed barbaric notes rather than the professional ones which I so strongly advocate, and whats more force me to beg, BEG I tell you for the freedom to vote as the educated mind sees fit.

A flashy no is my response for this mockery of the ideals that made this server great, good sir.
Shame.

[DMAN]

It's all pedantics, so it doesn't really matter. Say whatever you want, even zappin a note on dis sucka.

[Sadokist]

ordukai u skrubed up, u shall b executed for ye treason

[Lostmixup]

"That's dumb" doesn't capture either the scope or the magnitude of my rage at seeing this heretical note-taking-word upheaval . "Writing up" or even "Putting a note on" are far superior, not even including the travesty of comparing our dear and beloved players to "Those corky boards you find at school that people pin stuff to", or of fantasizing of jabbing them with each and every well deserved note you place.

Indeed, these treacherous comments are but the passing of the wind when compared to suddenly putting up a vote that completely under-represents my side and then creating a call to arms on the server with but a 5 second warning to your opponents. And then to lock those innocently misled votes in, so that I have to scramble to create an argument of my own and constantly update it via editing to prevent further aberrations as kidnapping the minds of our community so that you can bleed them with sharp, poky and indeed barbaric notes rather than the professional ones which I so strongly advocate.

A flashy no is my response for this mockery of the ideals that made this server great, good sir.
Shame.

To be fair, I told you before I told the server, good sir. You were given ample time to prepare your opinion during our previous conversations. Now is the time for war my good sir.

This does not misrepresent your side, I properly gave both our sides equal spotlight. I want to have putting a note on a player be called "pinning" and you don't, simple as that. You think it's dumb, I think it's cool. There is no tom foolery here.

[Ordukai]

To be fair, I told you before I told the server, good sir. You were given ample time to prepare your opinion during our previous conversations. Now is the time for war my good sir.

Does your treachery know no bounds? The most basic of investigations will prove an outrageous surprise attack upon myself and my just cause. Indeed, I would bring this evidence forth right now, showing the gross disparity between this "Ample time" you claim exists and the reality of an approximately 30 second warning followed by a call to arms over OOC and a cruel post in the forums, yet such is your brazen cravenness that you dare to make these claims before the server logs have updated for an exact count. However, I have bypassed this by referencing your post time with the moment you made the barest mention to it (In staff chat) shown here.

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(Context being shown purely for context and not for the defamation of anyone's character).
Lo and behold, the time in skype being recorded in PST matches the very minute of the time of this heretical post which is recorded in CST.
One minute is not enough to stand against such rallying cries as:

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"[D] OOC: Lostmixup: alright boys
[D] OOC: Lostmixup: viewtopic.php?f=64&t=5649
[D] OOC: Lostmixup: Vote on that
[D] OOC: Lostmixup: I encourage general arguing and name calling
[D] OOC: Lostmixup: for we do not uphold the anti-pinning scum that is ord's kind

Note: Apparently, scoundrel that he is, Lostmixup forced a march on me as I was attempting to reveal to the world his base and unruly treachery and quoted me while I was editing. All part of his cunning and cruel plan, for shame.

[Lostmixup]

Does your treachery know no bounds? The most basic of investigations will prove an outrageous surprise attack upon myself and my just cause. Indeed, I would bring this evidence forth right now, showing the gross disparity between this "Ample time" you claim exists and the reality of a 30 second warning followed by a call to arms over OOC and a cruel post in the forums.

Ah, but you see you exaggerate immensely. I did not tell them to vote for me specifically when I first posted the link, I simply waited a little bit to give you ample prep time like the noble person I am, then posted my glorious rally cries.

[Seehund]

I hereby propose calling notes, "tickets"!

stop laughing

But really, in my experience, notes are neutral observations about a player.
Ticket sounds more... negative, which is the purpose of these.

[Derpislav]

I vote for "slapping a note on".

[DMAN]

Bust a note in da house.

[Ordukai]

Your rallying cries followed swiftly on the heels of your declaration, one minute cannot possibly be considered long enough to form a defense against such heinous betrayal of the traditions and values that this brave community of Colonial Marines holds dear.
And thus in skype you have shown your hand. You know in your heart that my cause is just, and you cannot deny that to yourself even if you so boldy decry it here.

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Don't give way to corruption! Let us maintain the proud "Putting notes on" or "Writing up a note" tradition which we staff here have used for X amount of time!(Where X=a long ass time.)
Don't give in to chaos and anarchy, I implore you. We have enough of that with the way marines deploy, amirite?

[Lostmixup]

Your rallying cries followed swiftly on the heels of your declaration, one minute cannot possibly be considered long enough to form a defense against such heinous betrayal of the traditions and values that this brave community of Colonial Marines holds dear.
And thus in skype you have shown your hand. You know in your heart that my cause is just, and you cannot deny that to yourself even if you so boldy decry it here.

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Don't give way to corruption! Let us maintain the proud "Putting notes on" or "Writing up a note" tradition which we staff here have used for X amount of time!(Where X=a long ass time.)
Don't give in to chaos and anarchy, I implore you. We have enough of that with the way marines deploy, amirite?

I used "putting notes on" because that's pretty much the only way to say that. You see, putting a note on somone is the most basic way of describing the action. There's nothing behind it. With pinning you feel like you're really adding a note to someone's history. You pinned it to them, and they can't get it off.

[Seehund]

Nothing better to do: the thread.

[Leudoberct]

Ticket.

[ZDashe]

My good Sirs, how about the term "Sticking a note"? It implies that the written notice sticks and follows the person wherever he goes, and repeated actions will make the note more sticky. It would be a step up from merely "Writing up the note", which might not hint that anyone would read it.

It is also less condemning and painful than the act of "Pinning up a note". Afterall, notes can be both positive and negative, and should not indicate any form of bias.

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Taken from: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647#p59460
c. Positive notes may be added, but only for very noteworthy things such as constantly helping staff out by reporting actual rule breakers or teaching other players how to play the game. Say a marine blew up the entire hive with a knife somehow; while this is noteworthy, it is not the kind of thing that should be pinned to a player's notes.

As time passes, the stickiness would degrade, and the note falls off with the passage of time, in contrast to a pinned note, which suggests frequent user oversight to decide when to unpin it. Guaranteed, there are a wide variety of adhesives available in the market, so the author could go with superglue or the typical Post-it® kind of notes.

Considering the restrictive nature of stickiness, a user who has racked up enough notes in a certain area, might for example find their left hand tied up in sticky notes and hence lose its functionality. This would be akin to a job-ban, where the person is still alive and somewhat functional, but lacks total freedom. Should the nature of the note be too condemning, the size of the note can be so big that he might find himself wrapped up in a parcel and shipped off to bant-island. Perma-ban worthy notes would imply that the parcel has no return address and they are forever deported and stuck on the island. Users on bant-island would still be able to mail back ban appeals (which takes time to process just like conventional mail does) and request that their citizenship be reinstated.

Then there's also cases where an admin might decide to visit the island, take the effort to unravel the sticky parcels to consider either a reprieve or a reprisal. For users who shows no remorse over his actions, a sticky-ban might be issued if they failed parole. At this point, the user's fate is sealed as he is gifted to the Empress on the island, who would place the host in a sticky nest, violate its face, and sit there grinning while its young gestates to one day serve to uphold the mystical legend of bant-island.

[KeyWii]

#teamWriteup

[MadSnailDisease]

Ord, I'm sorry, Lostmixup is right. "Pinning" is just faster and more obvious as to what the action is. There's no way to counter his obviously superior terminology.

[Jen_Llama]

This can only be settled by an admin knife fight.
edit: 1v1 larvas only

[monkeysfist101]

I'd like to put write in "stapling to the forehead of."

[Hycinth]

You people...

[Wesmas]

Please may I have your attention.

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS DUMB AS SHIT! As long as you all understand what eachother mean, its fine. Please grow up, before I dig a hole in the garden, plant you and add plant food.

[Lostmixup]

Please may I have your attention.

THIS WHOLE THREAD IS DUMB AS SHIT! As long as you all understand what eachother mean, its fine. Please grow up, before I dig a hole in the garden, plant you and add plant food.

You good sir, are a heathen. This is incredibly important because it will determine what we call putting a note on someone in all documentation.

Might I also add, pinning is simply a much better term than the others. Be a pinner people.

[Lostmixup]

My good Sirs, how about the term "Sticking a note"? It implies that the written notice sticks and follows the person wherever he goes, and repeated actions will make the note more sticky. It would be a step up from merely "Writing up the note", which might not hint that anyone would read it.

It is also less condemning and painful than the act of "Pinning up a note". Afterall, notes can be both positive and negative, and should not indicate any form of bias.

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Taken from: viewtopic.php?f=57&t=5647#p59460
c. Positive notes may be added, but only for very noteworthy things such as constantly helping staff out by reporting actual rule breakers or teaching other players how to play the game. Say a marine blew up the entire hive with a knife somehow; while this is noteworthy, it is not the kind of thing that should be pinned to a player's notes.

As time passes, the stickiness would degrade, and the note falls off with the passage of time, in contrast to a pinned note, which suggests frequent user oversight to decide when to unpin it. Guaranteed, there are a wide variety of adhesives available in the market, so the author could go with superglue or the typical Post-it® kind of notes.

Considering the restrictive nature of stickiness, a user who has racked up enough notes in a certain area, might for example find their left hand tied up in sticky notes and hence lose its functionality. This would be akin to a job-ban, where the person is still alive and somewhat functional, but lacks total freedom. Should the nature of the note be too condemning, the size of the note can be so big that he might find himself wrapped up in a parcel and shipped off to bant-island. Perma-ban worthy notes would imply that the parcel has no return address and they are forever deported and stuck on the island. Users on bant-island would still be able to mail back ban appeals (which takes time to process just like conventional mail does) and request that their citizenship be reinstated.

Then there's also cases where an admin might decide to visit the island, take the effort to unravel the sticky parcels to consider either a reprieve or a reprisal. For users who shows no remorse over his actions, a sticky-ban might be issued if they failed parole. At this point, the user's fate is sealed as he is gifted to the Empress on the island, who would place the host in a sticky nest, violate its face, and sit there grinning while its young gestates to one day serve to uphold the mystical legend of bant-island.

But you see, a sticky implies the note goes away with time, like it could disappear at any time, but that is incorrect. You see, a note is always on the person, it is apart of them and their server history. A pin isn't just bad though, a pin may also be good. A pinned note can contain your good or bad deeds equally. I compare it like getting into heaven, all your good deeds are weighed against your bad deeds to determine if you truly deserve to get in or not, similarly on our server all your deeds are weighed against each other to determine if you get kicked out of the server or not. A pin represents something that's always there, because it is always there.

[MadSnailDisease]

aparently my post got caught in limbo, but:

Google (praise be) says that to pin is to "fix blame or responsibility for something on (someone)."
There can be no doubt that this is the superior terminology.

[hellion2]

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, Space Marins, Aliums, Believers of the one true faith, non-believers and heretics alike. Lend me your ear.

We need to work together in harmony on this issue, for how can one "pin" a note to someone, without first writing up said note. You fight each other over petty trivialities, you are two sides of the same coin.

In conclusion, the only option is to forget your differences, join together as one. Realise your folly and start calling them a Ticket.