Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

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Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by username123 » 06 Apr 2016, 03:37

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Title.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):

Will increase the chance for marines to actually use the nuke when it's needed.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):

I really don't see why they would not be allowed to give it, right now only Apop, Rahzel, Sas and Lost can give it which is fine, but the problem is that they really are not that active compared to admins and i belive that it is like this because they have more responsibilities than admins, but come i belive that our current admins are trustworthy to have this kind of "power" in 2.5+ hour rounds where where marines and aliens do nothing. Allowing this doesn't mean that the nuke will be used when is not needed, it only will increase the chances to be used when marines and even aliens need it to end a boring round fast.

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Just let them do it man.

(admins should not vote for obvious reasons i guess)

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by Ordukai » 06 Apr 2016, 03:55

All I can see this doing, for me, is removing my convenient excuse for never giving out the nuke codes ever :P

Also, the nuke is a thing that xenos just don't have an answer for. They're not even allowed to know what it is because meta. I don't think more nuke is a good thing. There are other ways to get marines and aliens to do stuff, but I don't feel we should reward marines for sitting still on the Sulaco behind, possibly, multiple layers of egrilles by instantly killing off all the aliens :P
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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by SASoperative » 06 Apr 2016, 04:09

Basicly, The nuke is just for show and even if that is the case we normally just request a evacuation protocol so aliens can at least have a somewhat fighting chance. I also am fairly pretty active? I normally drop around at least a solid 24 to 48 hours a week. The nuke also can be a bitch at times for the fact that regardless of literally everything dying marines still get that major victory.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by username123 » 06 Apr 2016, 04:40

SASoperative wrote:Basicly, The nuke is just for show and even if that is the case we normally just request a evacuation protocol so aliens can at least have a somewhat fighting chance. I also am fairly pretty active? I normally drop around at least a solid 24 to 48 hours a week. The nuke also can be a bitch at times for the fact that regardless of literally everything dying marines still get that major victory.
"but the problem is that they really are not that active compared to admins" not saying that headmins and hosts are not active, im saying that from my experience in the server admins are more active than headmins and hosts, and i play a lot, i just stopped to play this week because of life. And please, the main idea of this post is to decentralize things a bit which is always nice, i explained in the post that allowing this doesn't mean that the ammount of times that the nuke will be used in the server will increase just because admins are allowed to give it, it only means that (and read and analyze this next line well): The chances that the nuke will be used when it's NEEDED will increase because more people will allow it, it might be used more or hell, it might never be used even if the suggestion is accepted and another point that i want to put emphasis on is that Admins are not players that started to play yesterday, most of them are veterans in the game and they are trustworthy enough to even enforce the rule 0 (which basically allows them to explode a 999x999 bomb in all z levels if they feel that it is necessary) and i bet that they have as much experience as a headmin to know when it is a good idea to allow marines to use the nuke.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by spheretech » 06 Apr 2016, 04:58

SASoperative wrote:Basicly, The nuke is just for show and even if that is the case we normally just request a evacuation protocol so aliens can at least have a somewhat fighting chance. I also am fairly pretty active? I normally drop around at least a solid 24 to 48 hours a week. The nuke also can be a bitch at times for the fact that regardless of literally everything dying marines still get that major victory.
I play in the eu timezone and we almost never have an actual admin (not mods) on before the eu nighttime though
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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by Deadlymight » 06 Apr 2016, 12:08

SASoperative wrote:Basicly, The nuke is just for show .
I agree with that and I think it should stay that way. Maybe only use it in an event where marines have to get the bomb to the planet and activate it. Just "nuking" the aliens is really stupid if your on the alien side. So big -1 and the nuke, in my opinion, should only be used in events and such.
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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by Jen_Llama » 06 Apr 2016, 12:51

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by username123 » 06 Apr 2016, 20:59

Deadlymight wrote: I agree with that and I think it should stay that way. Maybe only use it in an event where marines have to get the bomb to the planet and activate it. Just "nuking" the aliens is really stupid if your on the alien side. So big -1 and the nuke, in my opinion, should only be used in events and such.
And again, people not understanding the main idea of the thread which is to give permission to the admins to give the nuke code, by allowing them to do it, the chances that the nuke is going to be used in events like you said will increase.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by SASoperative » 07 Apr 2016, 05:18

Yes, The thing is normally our events should never ever lead up to said things such as nukes or death teams unless one side has just completely fucked up entirely, From my knowledge (I could be wrong) Our dev team uses the marine wins alien wins so that way they can tell which side needs buffs or etc in what. Again I could be wrong on that but this would break that balance by a bit. I just honestly do not trust my own staff with the nuke. That is like a big fuck you to the alien side if it is ever used.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by username123 » 07 Apr 2016, 06:46

SASoperative wrote:Yes, The thing is normally our events should never ever lead up to said things such as nukes or death teams unless one side has just completely fucked up entirely, From my knowledge (I could be wrong) Our dev team uses the marine wins alien wins so that way they can tell which side needs buffs or etc in what. Again I could be wrong on that but this would break that balance by a bit. I just honestly do not trust my own staff with the nuke. That is like a big fuck you to the alien side if it is ever used.
"I just honestly do not trust my own staff with the nuke"

Then i changed my mind, i no longer think that it is a good idea to allow admins to give the nuke code for the reason that i and non staff members of the comunity know nothing about the internal affairs of the staff team. I made the suggestion because i belived that admins were more trustworthy with those things, but now that i hear it from you, it will be better if we do not allow this, unless we hear from apop, rahzel or lost the contrary.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by spheretech » 07 Apr 2016, 06:53

I don't trust admins, but if they don't trust themselves then theres no way I'd +1 this.
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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by forwardslashN » 07 Apr 2016, 14:31

-1. I've only seen the nuke go off once on alpha, but that makes it a cool event. I just wish the nuke actually gave a proper victory thing.
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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by Rabidgam3r » 07 Apr 2016, 18:35

-1, because that just makes it even more "viable" to turtle in the Sulaco.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by Snypehunter007 » 20 Dec 2016, 23:32

Headstaff are most likely only ever going to be able to give nuke codes.

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Re: Allow the admins to give the nuke code.

Post by forwardslashN » 21 Dec 2016, 15:57

Until nuke changes, if it changes, you won't be getting the codes from admins. Denied.
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