Disallow Eating Dead Bodies

[Mitchs98]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Disallow aliens from eating the dead. Prevent more metagame and marine salt.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Preventing metagame on the whole eating dead bodies thing, which aliens have no real reason to do.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Simply remove the xenos abilities to eat dead marines. They have no reason to other than the obvious metagaming cloning. Cleaning the hive you say? Make a 1x1 room with a resin door ala Dwarf Fortress trash pile and put bursted corpses in there. Problem solved. Done. Takes just as much effort as waiting for devour to work. Dead bodies do not cause lag, so don't use that excuse either. Don't argue lore, as aliens only eat holes in brains. Any other supposed cases of aliens eating humans are fan-made, no where in the main series' does it show them eating bodies. Ever.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Slap the same code for slashing corpses onto the devour verb, pretty sure it's as simple as that. If not I don't see it being too complicated.

[Solacian72]

Question

How can a xeno even fit a full grown human being in their mouth? I don't think even the Queens mouth is big enough to fit a full grown man in her mouth. Let alone they have that second mouth too.

[Ms.Degrasse]

Yes Solacian. And that feels WEIRD.
One thing is an alien devouring a human, as appears in some parts of the lore, piece-by-piece for added nutrition like any other carnivorous would do.
Other is it swallowing a human whole, either for transporting it or for getting rid of the body.

I am much more for a enhanced grab mechanic. Aliens breaking lockers instead of opening them.
And stuff that actually would fit what we expect from those creatures.

Otherwise, it's this silly thing here happening - but with an alien instead of a raptor. Kekekeke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPABJd4xos

[Feweh]

Question

How can a xeno even fit a full grown human being in their mouth? I don't think even the Queens mouth is big enough to fit a full grown man in her mouth. Let alone they have that second mouth too.

"Fun" mechanics

[Mitchs98]

Yes Solacian. And that feels WEIRD.
One thing is an alien devouring a human, as appears in some parts of the lore, piece-by-piece for added nutrition like any other carnivorous would do.
Other is it swallowing a human whole, either for transporting it or for getting rid of the body.

I am much more for a enhanced grab mechanic. Aliens breaking lockers instead of opening them.
And stuff that actually would fit what we expect from those creatures.

Otherwise, it's this silly thing here happening - but with an alien instead of a raptor. Kekekeke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPABJd4xos

It happens in FAN MADE iterations of the lore. In standard versions xenos do NOT nees to eat. Again, xenos only eat dead bodies for cloning reasons. There are really no other excuses no matter what way you want to put it.

[Page Avenue]

Which is metagame anyway. I mean, it'd be different if there were more mechanics to support it, but they don't even get hungry.

[Azmodan412]

It happens in FAN MADE iterations of the lore. In standard versions xenos do NOT nees to eat. Again, xenos only eat dead bodies for cloning reasons. There are really no other excuses no matter what way you want to put it.

Fun > lore.

[Mitchs98]

Fun > lore.

Metagaming is fun now? Who knew.

[Azmodan412]

I am merely giving the response everyone would give.

[ThatOneEngie]

+1

pls apop

[MagmaRam]

+1

Devour works best as a high-risk/high-reward method of transportation for infectees. That actually adds something. Eating corpses and deleting them adds nothing to the game except making players wait longer to get back in.

[Ms.Degrasse]

It happens in FAN MADE iterations of the lore. In standard versions xenos do NOT nees to eat. Again, xenos only eat dead bodies for cloning reasons. There are really no other excuses no matter what way you want to put it.

Actually it happens in official iterations (licensed material).
This novel: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alien:_Sea_of_Sorrows
And those two games: http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Aliens_vs._Predator:_Requiem http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Aliens_vs._Pr ... ideo_game)

Fun - and weird - fact?

Orignally, the alien had the hability to use the human bodies biomass and innorganic materials for building his nest, eggs and for sustenance. - The process wasn't actually simply eating/digesting, but dissolving externally with it's secretions first then "sculpting" things.
See by this deleted scene, straight from the first movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MCoefVgW9w
And here too with a better quality (but added stuff):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6dSIMFo7iU

[TeknoKot]

How about instead of eating bodies, use them on something like resin walls to harden them? Seems stupid, but good for those attempting to escape nests, as they have to slash through their dead comrades too. Can even be used for decoration, how about that?

[qDan]

Im totally FOR removing devouring from tier1-2 aluems because theres just no technical possibilities to eat full bodies as Solacian already mentioned. Instead Id suggest adding possibility to actually bite bodies like in AvP to gain HP or kind of boost while leaving devouring to tier3 xenos and Queen.

Also wanna remind that scanned marines may be cloned w\o retrieved bodies but thats usually lead to boring process of recieving new IDs and ammunition as well as random time waiting until somebody will check records in DNA-scan terminal

[hellion2]

Im totally FOR removing devouring from tier1-2 aluems because theres just no technical possibilities to eat full bodies as Solacian already mentioned. Instead Id suggest adding possibility to actually bite bodies like in AvP to gain HP or kind of boost while leaving devouring to tier3 xenos and Queen.

Also wanna remind that scanned marines may be cloned w\o retrieved bodies but thats usually lead to boring process of recieving new IDs and ammunition as well as random time waiting until somebody will check records in DNA-scan terminal

Pre-scanning is classed as Meta-gaming on Colonial Marines, and is strictly not allowed.

[Egorkor]

not anymore, it is allowed now.
but it's still a bitch to go through.

[Mitchs98]

How about instead of eating bodies, use them on something like resin walls to harden them? Seems stupid, but good for those attempting to escape nests, as they have to slash through their dead comrades too. Can even be used for decoration, how about that?

As long as the body is able to be retrieved, I'm all for it.

[TeknoKot]

As long as the body is able to be retrieved, I'm all for it.

It will be, but as said, it'll take a lot longer to retrieve the body.

[Morrinn]

Sort of a -1
I much prefer putting a limiter on how many mobs a xeno can devour instead.
Failing that, the rule of not eating any dead marines outside of the main hive is a fairly good compromise.

[Mitchs98]

It will be, but as said, it'll take a lot longer to retrieve the body.

Shooting down a wall is better than not being able to retrieve it at all. As long as the body is clearly visible in the wall I don't see any issues with this being a comprimise.

[OatzAndHoes]

+1

Sort of a -1
I much prefer putting a limiter on how many mobs a xeno can devour instead.
Failing that, the rule of not eating any dead marines outside of the main hive is a fairly good compromise.

That rule got removed

[apophis775]

Denied.

We removed the rule.

The only issue/reason we ever had stuff with limiting the body consuming, was because it shit lagstorms out the moment a body was "dissolved" in the stomach.

Many moons back, eating bodies actually gave you a plasma boost while it was being dissolved (pre-alpha way back)