Remove AP M41A ammo

[Edgelord]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Remove AP M41A ammo from the game.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Less getting killed instantly by friendly fire.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): I admittedly get salty when I die, I don't deny it. But what gets me EXCEPTIONALLY salty is when I get killed from ONE OR TWO BULLETS. I have played 3 rounds today, and every single round has had me getting instantly taken out of commission by a marine wantonly firing his rifle. Now I'm not one for removing FF, it's an important balancing aspect of CM. But with this ammo the amount of harm done to the marines is insane. It's simply not fun.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): Just remove it.

[Rey]

+1
Ain't gotta explain shit for this one.

As an alternative, perhaps only give it to specs or squad leaders.

[LocalizedDownpour]

+1 to this. Two rounds puts me in a hard crit with broken bones. As a medic it is EXTREMELY hard to treat ontop of all the Xeno wounds as well.

I understand this is a High risk High reward ammo type, but the risk isn't on the person taking it, but everyone around them. I'm for keeping the ammo, but make it a RO order maybe?

[Zilenan91]

Should be only for non-standards only so that you can trust them not to mess up. Probably just add the rounds to all the vendors but the public ones. Or just add it to the spec room and let them distribute it.

[Dyne]

-1 on limiting AP bullets, +1 on upping marine armor against them a bit.

[Edgelord]

Should be only for non-standards only so that you can trust them not to mess up. Probably just add the rounds to all the vendors but the public ones. Or just add it to the spec room and let them distribute it.

I'd be down to have the RO distribute them to only squad leaders and specs

[DernSquirrels^3]

Nah, no point in just limiting it. Just remove it entirely (or make it research unlockable)

[Edgelord]

Yeah, I really can't think of it doing any good. Maybe give it to certain ERTs.

[Mitchs98]

Just buff marine armor protection against it, really. I mean. You'd assume they'd have their armor protect better against their own rounds, right?

[Yottawhat]

+1 I just saw a death squad get destroyed because the marines were using AP rounds.

It would be better if you have them be handed out like attachments or be a research item.

[Monoo]

+1 for all reasons stated so far.

[RoswellRay]

Just buff marine armor protection against it, really. I mean. You'd assume they'd have their armor protect better against their own rounds, right?

Not really how military armour works, it's more for shrapnel protection.

[ClumsyAlcoholic]

-1 because it's not the ammo you should be pissed about, it's the lack of aim

[forwardslashN]

-1
But limiting it to 10 per ammo vendor would be nice. AP ammo shouldn't be super available.

[Edgelord]

-1 because it's not the ammo you should be pissed about, it's the lack of aim

Thanks for telling me what I don't like friend.

If you took the time to read my post you'd see that it's not the general bad aim of marines that pisses me off, it's how an unavoidable circumstance is made a hundred times worse for an item that no one really needs.

[ClumsyAlcoholic]

for an item that no one really needs.

Every tier three xeno can basically deflect all shots fired at them, so if anything it is DESPERATELY needed. but it would be good to make it harder to get and in smaller quantities instead of saltremoving it

[Nubs]

Its a good and needed for repelling crushers, but should be more limited. marines spraying it everywhere is ruinous, 1 stray shot crippled me through b18 armour!

[Reimer]

Its a good and needed for repelling crushers, but should be more limited. marines spraying it everywhere is ruinous, 1 stray shot crippled me through b18 armour!

I can beat you there, I got critted (fucking critted) from one shot to my left hand.

The round prior to that a new guy playing his first round fired three AP to my gut and killed me.

I can definitely see the utility of these rounds against high-caste aliens, but having every tom dick and harry grab them from the main vendors is just ruinous.

[Jeser]

-1 on limiting AP bullets, +1 on upping marine armor against them a bit.

It's AP rounds, marine armor is not titan sheets, it should be penetrated easily with AP rounds, as it is now. Problem with incompetent idiots. Place AP rounds into SL and Spec vendors only.

[SecretStamos (Joshuu)]

I've always been partial to Cargo having AP rounds

I don't think they should be in the current vendors

[Aeleto]

I've always been partial to Cargo having AP rounds

I don't think they should be in the current vendors

This, make it ordered only.

[qDan]

Same as Dyne - leave AP mags alone just make plastic stomrtrooper's armor spehs marine's bulletproof one.

[Derpislav]

I'm completely against removing AP rounds. They are my waifu. If you really can't handle FF that much, just make it so RQ/Specs/SL distribute them, but don't you dare take them away from me.

[Tristan63]

+1 Standards wouldn't get expensive AP ammo anyway, and everyone really is just running around with it.

[Edgelord]

So is it generally agreeable that we make them ordered from cargo? I think that's a fair compromise.