Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

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Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by 1138 » 18 May 2016, 13:30

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Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here): Korban Norecur, though I generally play xeno a lot.

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): Dv'ahl Dreskar

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?

Yes. I had an accepted whitelist before the wipe.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):


Dv'ahl is a Blooded Yautja hunter of clan Dreskar, a clan that remains to displace itself outside of the homeworld politics and carry out their business and hunts with subtlety. The Dreskar are known to be exotic game hunters, particularly that of worthy, large and dangerous natural predators or equally deadly natural prey. Though the Dreskar exercise restraint in these hunts as to prevent the full extinction of an entire species, entertainment and thrill is derived from the ritualistic slaughter of dominant apex organisms.

Dv'ahl has since grown from their first claim of a xenomorph kill and ritual Blooding, and has dispatched a fair few of the more developed hive, such as a few praetorians. Dv'ahl has yet to claim the skull of a hive's Queen, particularly within the knowledge that slaying a Queen would lead to the entire hive's extermination, and that taking on a Queen (and likely their hive) alone is a very dangerous and arduous task. Wishing to elevate themselves amongst the Dreskar and claim the mask of their ancestor, Dv'ahl's motivation is nothing but clear.

How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?
I fully intend to follow the Honor Code to the letter and avoid technical violations. My character will shy away from dishonorable acts but will be ruthless and unyielding in honorable combat.

Why should we whitelist you?
I consider myself both fairly robust and well-versed in RP level. I'm good at creating interesting situations and reacting sensibly to said situations. I often hold myself to a higher standard than what standards I hold for others. Service the community first, personal gain either secondary or made irrelevant.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?


No.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?

No.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?

Yes, I understand.

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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by LordeKilly » 18 May 2016, 15:22

The story is bland, shows no comprehension of the lore. Also last activity was almost 7-8 months ago. I feel like this is one of those, "oh hey predators cool let me do this now."

Going with -1. Sorry pal, I remember you on staff, btu the app isn't that good and the story is weak.
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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by Feweh » 18 May 2016, 19:06

Without getting into the application and lore..

I would -1 this just based on the fact that you recently started playing and just joined staff again.
I'm really not a fan of rushing people into everything at once and likewise if this was any other player I'd -1 them as well.

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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by 1138 » 18 May 2016, 20:51

LordeKilly wrote:The story is bland, shows no comprehension of the lore. Also last activity was almost 7-8 months ago. I feel like this is one of those, "oh hey predators cool let me do this now."

Going with -1. Sorry pal, I remember you on staff, btu the app isn't that good and the story is weak.
Well, sure, but could you explain to me how you think I don't have a comprehension of the lore, exactly?

One-to-two sentences each is not exactly following the 7th rule for this forum section, is all.

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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by LordeKilly » 18 May 2016, 21:06

1138 wrote: Well, sure, but could you explain to me how you think I don't have a comprehension of the lore, exactly?

One-to-two sentences each is not exactly following the 7th rule for this forum section, is all.
I gave you a legitimate reason. Look at other applications, they have much better backstories that actually show they know details about Yautja. As far as I know, you're just another bland hunter who brings nothing unique. I gave a legitimate reason, thats following rule 7 pal. Another reason I wrote was simply because you just got back and decided, "i'm going to hop on the train."
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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by 1138 » 18 May 2016, 21:42

LordeKilly wrote:
I gave you a legitimate reason. Look at other applications, they have much better backstories that actually show they know details about Yautja. As far as I know, you're just another bland hunter who brings nothing unique. I gave a legitimate reason, thats following rule 7 pal. Another reason I wrote was simply because you just got back and decided, "i'm going to hop on the train."
Lemme tell you about my MO when it comes to character creation. I create a baseline with as much as information that's needed to play the character, but without too much fluff that will end up being generally meaningless and inapplicable in IC.

I don't like creating snowflakes as I will internally cringe while playing them. I create normalized, "realistic", believable characters that fit in the setting. I don't think I should be required to make a snowflake that kills all the aliums and doesn't afraid of anything. I don't think I should be required to have a 5-page biography to list the accomplishments of my character, because let's be honest, who is going to read all of that? If anything, creating giant chunks of paragraph and droning on and on about the subject will end up being dismissed regardless if it has any value or not.

Really? You think I've immediately returned and just want to hop on the bandwagon? You know that before the whitelist wipe, I had an accepted app before? I didn't create any issues, I never violated the Honor Code and I never broke the lore. I was even told by one of the staff to reapply and they mentioned it would be simple as redrawing the concept up again.

The last time people asked for "unique", we got a Yautja that wore a skirt, shot basketball hoops and cloak-killed aliens. Plenty of folks got rightly pissed at that. Yautja culture does not even wish its members to be "unique". They follow the laws of the Hunt or they are marked as traitorous heathens and outcasts. The adjudicators would be very intolerant to the idea of "fresh, unique and new" if it meant their own kind getting dangerously close to breaking honor code.

The Yautja by design are not meant to be individually diverse, only culturally and ritually. They have much to offer as a people, but their own people cannot afford to go outside the bounds that intends to bring themselves closer together.

And that's why my character isn't so utterly "outstanding", because I would need to take actions as that character in order to gain status and trust among their own kind. Respect is earned, not immediately conjured or given. They have awhile to go before they can assert a claim to fame. I make all of my characters like these, I make them all have personal goals not yet accomplished so that they can be pushed in the state of the storyline to achieve those goals, so that people can look at that character and say, "Wow, that's an awfully interesting and realistic character, it's almost like it's a real person."

That right there is sign of a good roleplayer. It is not about the greentext, but more about the personal accomplishments acquired from playing along in the story and making decisions.

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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by LordeKilly » 18 May 2016, 21:54

1138 wrote: Really? You think I've immediately returned and just want to hop on the bandwagon? You know that before the whitelist wipe, I had an accepted app before? I didn't create any issues, I never violated the Honor Code and I never broke the lore. I was even told by one of the staff to reapply and they mentioned it would be simple as redrawing the concept up again.

The last time people asked for "unique", we got a Yautja that wore a skirt, shot basketball hoops and cloak-killed aliens. Plenty of folks got rightly pissed at that. Yautja culture does not even wish its members to be "unique". They follow the laws of the Hunt or they are marked as traitorous heathens and outcasts. The adjudicators would be very intolerant to the idea of "fresh, unique and new" if it meant their own kind getting dangerously close to breaking honor code.

The Yautja by design are not meant to be individually diverse, only culturally and ritually. They have much to offer as a people, but their own people cannot afford to go outside the bounds that intends to bring themselves closer together.

And that's why my character isn't so utterly "outstanding", because I would need to take actions as that character in order to gain status and trust among their own kind. Respect is earned, not immediately conjured or given. They have awhile to go before they can assert a claim to fame. I make all of my characters like these, I make them all have personal goals not yet accomplished so that they can be pushed in the state of the storyline to achieve those goals, so that people can look at that character and say, "Wow, that's an awfully interesting and realistic character, it's almost like it's a real person."

That right there is sign of a good roleplayer. It is not about the greentext, but more about the personal accomplishments acquired from playing along in the story and making decisions.
A lot of people had applications accepted before too, but it's pretty convenient you came back right after predators came back around for whitelisting, and the previous whitelist was gone. Even Feweh agrees, it's perfect timing that you happened to show up now. I could care less that you were a whitelist before, I care more about the application, which was pretty poor in my opinion.

As for the mediocre basic yautja, no. Being a bland hunter who is just that: a hunter, brings nothing new to the table. It creates no roleplayable environment, as the position is meant to be. It's not asked that you give a 5 page paragraph on how your Yautja invaded Earth and saved the day from flying xeno hybrids.

If you took the time to look over newer applications, you'd see that each Yautja has a defining characteristic, or trait that puts them off from others. Not only this, but the story they make about their first hunt and such is more of a way to gauge your knowledge of the lore, how you can put tid-bits in of the honor code, how you can express you know the position well enough to be able to form a story about it. No one said it's not ok to start from humble beginnings and earn your respect. A lot of people actually do that, even I did.

Bottom line, I've stated my opinion, i've given fair reasoning behind my decision, and I'm staying with it still.
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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by 1138 » 18 May 2016, 22:11

What'd be the point of roleplaying and developing the character if I listed the defining characteristics about them for everyone to see? It'd defeat the curiosity most people have when they meet new characters. Because if you asked me, "Hey, what's your marine character like?" in OOC, I'd tell you, "Find out in IC". There'd be much less value in RPing with someone that you read about in their backstory section. It's a fun-killer.
If you took the time to look over newer applications, you'd see that each Yautja has a defining characteristic, or trait that puts them off from others.
"Yeah, this is one thing my character does that's different from others, aren't they interesting?"

Not really. Yautja are defined by the sum of their parts, both by personal beliefs, philosophies, their culture, their actions and whom they represent. Elites do not become Elites because they liked peanut butter. Elites became elites due to their service to their clans and their brilliant performance in combat against the serpent hivemind.

For instance. Dv'ahl is an up-and-comer Blooded hunter. They've done their fair share for their clan and have slayed plenty of adversaries in single combat or against less likely odds. Yet despite the experience they've garnered from their own hunts and seeking advice from their own elders, they do not quite measure up in terms of experience to a veteran or elite of their own clan. They still aspire to become something greater than they are, in order to impress their own elders and bring a greater level of honor to their clan. They have yet to get there, though.

That is the intent and purpose of this whitelist. I want to develop a non-outstanding character and make something great of it, and have people look upon it and see it as an example of good story or RP development.

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Re: Dv'ahl Dreskar (Wolfpack)

Post by Feweh » 03 Jun 2016, 16:11

Denied, applied way too soon after returning, activity in-game is struggling and application isnt great.

Improve these for next application.

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