Add back the rule of "Do not eat dead bodies UNLESS THEY'RE IN HIVE"

Post by **TeknoKot** » 24 May 2016, 07:12

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): It's retarded and dumb, it's metagaming and powergaming. "OH BOY, A BODY WHO'S ABOUT TO GET CLONED OUTSIDE OF FOB, BETTER EAT IT! AYYLMAO". An alien wouldn't EVEN do it, WHY would they DEVOUR dead bodies at all. SURE in hive you could do that, but WHY outside, just WHY. It removes PLAYERS out of round completely with no chance of ever playing because of some dumb marines probably friendly firing.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Stupid powergaming and metagaming of aliens thinking "HAHA, LOL, DON'T GET CLONED YOU SUNUVABITCH" will finally stop.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Removes the stupid metagaming and powergaming, this shouldn't exist at all, does not even fit with the lore in any way, hell, even in aliens movie bodies were just all scattered around.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): add it to the rules.

Oliver · Post by **Oliver** » 24 May 2016, 07:13

As a player who just had this happen, I fully agree.

freemysoul · Post by **freemysoul** » 24 May 2016, 07:18

Personally I'd say a rule like No eatting bodies UNLESS you've seen a dead marine go up then come back down alive.

Post by **TeknoKot** » 24 May 2016, 07:20

freemysoul wrote:Personally I'd say a rule like No eatting bodies UNLESS you've seen a dead marine go up then come back down alive.

This can easily be abused and lied for. I suggest eating bodies only in hive.

Derpislav · Post by **Derpislav** » 24 May 2016, 07:22

I don't have an opinion right now, but if devouring doesn't get removed along with cloning, I will flip my shit.

freemysoul · Post by **freemysoul** » 24 May 2016, 07:36

Derpislav wrote:I don't have an opinion right now, but if devouring doesn't get removed along with cloning, I will flip my shit.

What derp said.

Infernus · Post by **Infernus** » 24 May 2016, 08:03

Is this another quadruplicate duplicate?

MrJJJ · Post by **MrJJJ** » 24 May 2016, 08:16

Infernus wrote:Is this another quadruplicate duplicate?

Uh, i only seen 1 thread about it...

enkas · Post by **enkas** » 24 May 2016, 08:30

In all honesty, I don't mind being impossible to be cloned. After all, what is the simple reason for a xeno -not- to eat a fresh corpse? It is a tasty human, it is already dead, so I can't infest it, I'll just omnomnom it. That being said, I do believe that the eating of marines should give xenos some benefit.

Derpislav · Post by **Derpislav** » 24 May 2016, 08:37

enkas wrote:After all, what is the simple reason for a xeno -not- to eat a fresh corpse?

Sarah_U. · Post by **Sarah_U.** » 24 May 2016, 10:17

Want to make cloning nasty while disallowing corpses to be eaten? Cloning an infected also clone the larva inside, and revives it.

Want to make it even more nasty??? Well just go ahead and make the damage count in the cloning time + Make acid melt bodyparts when it comes in contact with rines- Boiler sends acidic gas, welp here's your two minutes waiting for revive.

What's good and wrong about it? Well simple, marines will take FOREVER to clone at certain times and generally they'll even pose a risk to the ship if kept ungarded. Overall command will sometime possibly even have to shut down cloning from fear of having aliens sneaking out of it 24/7 while taking forever.

Just an idea, do whatever you want with xD
Have fun out there!

Post by **forwardslashN** » 24 May 2016, 10:17

Derpislav wrote:I don't have an opinion right now, but if devouring doesn't get removed along with cloning, I will flip my shit.

I won't flip my shit, but aliens shouldn't be eating dead bodies based on lore, so this makes sense. As of right now, don't really care.

Solacian72 · Post by **Solacian72** » 24 May 2016, 12:55

Yes, please. Let's just remove cloning and devouring all together. Aliens, if you are too far away from the hive to carry a face-hugged person back, get backup. I can't tell you how many times I've had to wait for an entire round to end for being devoured as a survivor.

Boltersam · Post by **Boltersam** » 24 May 2016, 13:49

Can we get the ability to actually drag people into tunnels, then?

I mean, if it can fit a fecking T3, it can fit an alien dragging a passed out human behind it.

Post by **1138** » 24 May 2016, 14:07

I play both marine and xeno.

As xeno, on principle, I devour bodies inside the hive. Outside the hive, it's kinda iffy. If there's no one around, then I'll devour it as it's improbable they will get found anyway. In terms of IC justification... well, they're capable of doing it in IC. Aliens do it, not always for the sake of denying that marine cloning. Marines rarely get cloned anyway. Why bother regulating that specific aspect of it?

If I'm marine, I don't expect to be cloned, ever, because at most during primetime there's 70-80 people and it's highly doubtful you'll get spotted as dead and immediately cared about and taken back to be cloned. There's also the issue with z-level separations and shuttle timers making the issue with cloning not-so-pretty. Probably takes 15 minutes in total for one marine to get cloned, maybe a little less if marines are being cloned in pairs.

This would be ass to enforce, half of our rules are ass to enforce because they're so arbitrary. Believe we're already due for a revision sometime in the future. Think we should hold off on these sorts of radical suggestions, aye? We don't need a more restrictive fear-mongering environment, we need one that we can trust players to do the right thing and follow the rules. We'll deal with the ones that don't.

This isn't "final" or whatever, it's just my own input on the matter. Keep discussing, if you wish.

Post by **apophis775** » 24 May 2016, 14:30

No. I'm not re-adding the rule.

The rule ONLY EXISTED because devouring bodies caused INSURMOUNTABLE amounts of lag, which it no longer does.

Xenos can't drag dead bodies anymore, so devouring them is their only way to move them.

Best I can tell you, is that I'll discuss this with the dev team, but I seriously doubt they'll want to adjust it.

Staff Assistant · Post by **Staff Assistant** » 24 May 2016, 17:29

I rather aliens being able to drag bodies than devouring them.

monkeysfist101 · Post by **monkeysfist101** » 24 May 2016, 20:16

enkas wrote:In all honesty, I don't mind being impossible to be cloned. After all, what is the simple reason for a xeno -not- to eat a fresh corpse? It is a tasty human, it is already dead, so I can't infest it, I'll just omnomnom it. That being said, I do believe that the eating of marines should give xenos some benefit.

Because xenos don't eat. At all.

enkas · Post by **enkas** » 24 May 2016, 20:19

The first two games in AVP series made me think different

And it may explain the lack of any corpses at overtaken facilities in games/movies.

Furthermore, the biomass they produce can't just be made out from air...

Oh, and in AVP2 (the game, not the horribad movie) , the chestburster needed a small mammal, to be able to evolve to a drone

Oh oh oh.. And in Alien 3, the xenomorph did eat some humans.

Post by **1138** » 24 May 2016, 23:52

AVP2010 also has a few snippet encounters of Xenomorphs devouring facial tissue and flesh from its victims.

monkeysfist101 · Post by **monkeysfist101** » 25 May 2016, 01:46

Psssssh. AVP is the least canon of the non-canons. Like actually lower than the comics in Fox's hierarchy of canon.

enkas · Post by **enkas** » 25 May 2016, 08:48

monkeysfist101 wrote:Psssssh. AVP is the least canon of the non-canons. Like actually lower than the comics in Fox's hierarchy of canon.

And yet we have so many things exclusively taken from/inspired by the AVP games

Mitchs98 · Post by **Mitchs98** » 25 May 2016, 18:42

I say +1 to add the rule or a mechanic to stop it. It makes no sense! If there's something to stop them from slashing and even MOVING dead bodies, why wouldn't there be something to not eat it?

Aliens don't need to eat. Following something that's as far off from canon as possible is dumb as hell.

Post by **apophis775** » 27 May 2016, 15:58

I thought I denied and locked this?

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