Monkeys: Staff Wet Dreams

[Desolane900]

A few weeks back I was playing as a survivor, Martin Halyecko, and ran across some monkeys. I was in the process of metakilling them with all intents and purposes of being meta. Because as the game clearly says, survivors know everything about xenos and can use this information as they see fit.

So does it make sense I was PMed by our lovable HeadMod to stop killing monkeys as a survivor, with a meta pass?

Fast forward to just a few minutes ago. Playing as everyone's favorite asshole, Saul Freytia, and sitting around on FOB duty with literally nothing to do. Seeing disobeying orders and abandoning the FOB as a wrongful act, I proceeded to kill two monkeys that were dragged into the FOB by other marines for several reasons.

Reason One: In the words of General Rommel, "In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it." So I did.

Reason Two: I roleplay Saul as a sadistic little shit who would happily kill a monkey like a normal person smashes a bug. Throughout history, people have joined the military simply to kill something. Quoting Joker from Full Metal Jacket, "I wanted to kill, sir." So why was I called a metagamer for simply killing a monkey? Even knowing if they had been facehugged wouldn't change the resolve of someone looking to end a life for kicks.

Reason Three: Simple fucking boredom. Sitting at a barricade with zero hostiles anywhere for the next ten hundred yards, why not get some practice in with the local wildlife?

I'm not at all discrediting being banned for metagaming. But this is a reoccurring theme I enjoy bringing up. The staff don't seem to think there's any roleplaying involved at any time, especially when it may involve metagaming. Here's a quick solution. If you're going to treat Colonial Marines like Hippie Station, DON'T FUCKING CALL IT MEDIUM ROLEPLAY!

If any type of Roleplay leading to possible rulebreaking can be discredited with accusations of metagaming or griefing, don't claim to have a roleplaying server.

And I would love to point out that I am not discrediting the "Marines wouldn't hire someone who's a lunatic and would do crazy things. So don't do crazy things." rule, but I am bringing up the fact that we have people with eyepatches, old people, and very goddamn eccentric people in the Colonial Marines for whatever goddamn reason. So how can you shrug off a physical disability but shoot down any type of sadistic behavior as being unrealistic and bad for the gameplay?

So I ask now, at the end of this rant, what's the big fucking deal with monkeys? I can't metakill them when given permission to meta, I can't kill them with a legitimate roleplaying reason that would totally fit in real life. So what's the big fucking deal? When can we kill them? Why not just make them invincible since they're so goddamn protected for fucks sake.

[Egorkor]

fffffffffawken furries!

[coolsurf6]

First of all, delete your last sig.
Second of all, wtf you know about xenos so kill the fucking monkeys.
I think this should be in player complaints!

[Desolane900]

First of all, delete your last sig.
Second of all, wtf you know about xenos so kill the fucking monkeys.
I think this should be in player complaints!

First of all, no.
Second of all, knowing xenos breed through putting a larva in something else alive so kill the monkeys and stop the xeno breeding.
I think it has no place in player complaints because it's a rant not a player complaint?

[TeknoKot]

And I would love to point out that I am not discrediting the "Marines wouldn't hire someone who's a lunatic and would do crazy things. So don't do crazy things." rule, but I am bringing up the fact that we have people with eyepatches, old people, and very goddamn eccentric people in the Colonial Marines for whatever goddamn reason. So how can you shrug off a physical disability but shoot down any type of sadistic behavior as being unrealistic and bad for the gameplay?

would you honestly hire a retard who only wants to kill some wildlife and disobey orders or someone with obnoxious hair but actually listens.

[Grypho]

If the monkeys are the biggest problem, everything is going very well.

I rarely attach my signature to post, but I think this thread deserves it.

edit: it doesnt load RIP, imagine that it is a salt truck dropping salt.

edit 2: It did now, enjoy!

[Desolane900]

would you honestly hire a retard who only wants to kill some wildlife and disobey orders or someone with obnoxious hair but actually listens.

Ask the recruiters that question.

[killinkyle]

Ask the recruiters that question.

They'd hire the guy with the obnoxious hair, get him into bootcamp, then force him by contract to shave that shit off, be it held down, if forced to.

Marines dont hire psychopaths, they make psychopaths. And if those psychopaths get caught out of line, they get a one way ticket to the den of the military police officer.

[Feweh]

It's power-gamey and ruins the entire fun of the round if marines slaughter all the defenseless host
Later on in the rounds, it's not a big deal if you kill a monkey we generally dont mind.

But being a survivor and running around at round start slaughtering monkeys is just a shit thing to do. You could easily kill 75% of the monkeys as a survivor at round start.
Don't do it, or you'll be job-banned from survivor.

Honestly, it's just a shitty thing to do and generally its always the power-gaming players who do it.
Roleplay as a Survivor using the knowledge we give you, don't use it to power-game the CM mechanics.

If anything, youd force a new rule that survivors dont know about bursting/infection to stop shit like this.

Shit like this is why we cant have nice things ever.

[Artouris]

Actually considering how unprofessional the Marines tend to be on this server. In the movie less so (probably because all the actors had to get training) it still was a Vietnam equivalent of US Marines in some way but set in the future.
I've actually read stories of people who just got outta their teens in vietnam that did shit that sounds pretty unacceptable. This included finding a puppy keeping it with then on the patrol and eventually strapping a claymore to it and blowing it up because they had nothing better to do and they knew they'll get more claymore resupplies (now this wasn't the whole group doing this but a few dudes but it still l transpired). So the analog of being bored, possibly slightly deranged twenty something killing wildlife is not totally out of the question considering CM is basically vietnam in space

Along with that xenos for the most part cripple themselves because they have a large tendency to rush survivors anyways. There are ones that go nab all the monkeys while they can. But I've usually seen them rush survivors. That's crippling the survivors round if anything. But no one cares about that. If anything I'd say move the monkeys closer to the river. Or since xenos got buffed and it's easier to nab Marines then keep it as is. Most survivors end up being xenorushed that they can't really shoot monkeys in the first place. I mean I'll gladly trade no xenorushing for no killing monkeys as a survivor.
Mainly because xenorushing is a completely dick tactic that most often ruins it for a dude who wanted to bring some interesting interactions with Marines. I've seen probably some of the most memorable RP things or events happen from survivors. But often those times they had to cheese their way to victory so to speak.

[apophis775]

As a survivor, your NOT A MARINE. You didn't get any special training or anything like. Your goal should be SURVIVE UNTIL RESCUE. You shouldn't be hunting down the monkies just because "ayylmaos". You should be bunkering down to try and survive. If you can't understand that, or don't WANT to do that disable survivor. Or if your lazy, let me know and I'll job-ban you.

Firstly: Your a US Colonial Marine and shouldn't use a NAZI GENERAL to try and justify your actions (even if it was Rommel).

Secondly: We are medium RP and encourage player RP interactions as well as limit the "abilities" of people. However, we do NOT allow you play play as "sadistic little shits" or "insane" people. It's literally in the fucking rules, which you've apparently not read. (Marine rule 3)

Third: If you can't handle Boredom of waiting for aliens to attack, find something PRODUCTIVE to do. Don't start murdering animals/monkies or being a total shit.


BOTTOM LINE:

Either play survivor without being a total piece of shit, or don't play it. And follow the Marine RP rules/guidelines. "Insanity" and similar bullshit is strictly forbidden.



And no offense, but your "playstyle" has really dropped in quality over the last few weeks and you are quickly approaching a permaban (you have a flag right now, that says you get a 3-day ban for any rule infraction, and next step up is permaban). You used to be a decent in-game player, which is why we overlooked how much of a giant asshole you constantly are to staff and in dsay, but that's coming to an end. You've got 3 bans/notes from May (not including your forum 2-day ban) and your toxicity levels with how you interact with staff and players has been SKYROCKETING. I'm not sure what happened, but you might want to deal with whatever caused you to double down on your known assholish behavior before we remove you from the community for the mass level of shit you're dumping on us. It was amusing back in Janurary, but it's just tiring at this point. Reel it back in, before I have to do it for you.

[Desolane900]

And no offense, but your "playstyle" has really dropped in quality over the last few weeks and you are quickly approaching a permaban (you have a flag right now, that says you get a 3-day ban for any rule infraction, and next step up is permaban). You used to be a decent in-game player, which is why we overlooked how much of a giant asshole you constantly are to staff and in dsay, but that's coming to an end. You've got 3 bans/notes from May (not including your forum 2-day ban) and your toxicity levels with how you interact with staff and players has been SKYROCKETING. I'm not sure what happened, but you might want to deal with whatever caused you to double down on your known assholish behavior before we remove you from the community for the mass level of shit you're dumping on us. It was amusing back in Janurary, but it's just tiring at this point. Reel it back in, before I have to do it for you.

Honestly, I haven't really changed much at all. I'm assuming that I've more so moved into the lens of the powers that be. And I'm only rude to the people that I feel deserve it out of character. I got along swimmingly with the members of staff I enjoyed being around but they'd all but gone and fucked off. I still have a few friends that know I'm joking when I "cuck" them, and I know they're joking when they "cunt" me.

Is there some point when you'd want to sit down and be civil about the topic?

[Nubs]

Your ego is obnoxious. One time i scanned you as medic and jokingly said "WARNING EGO OVERDOSE detected" and you stabbed me. you're not a superstar or god because you can kill a few aliens, for gods sake.

[Desolane900]

Your ego is obnoxious. One time i scanned you as medic and jokingly said "WARNING EGO OVERDOSE detected" and you stabbed me. you're not a superstar or god because you can kill a few aliens, for gods sake.

I remember that. I also remember telling you to shut up and that was as far as it went. I get I'm a prick IC but don't try strawmanning me. I own up to my fuckups.

[apophis775]

Your have changed a LOT in the months I've known you. Unfortunatly, in the last few weeks, it's been "downhill". And it's not you "moving into the lens of the powers that be". We've always been aware of you, but it was minor enough that it wasn't a problem. Lately, it's compounding. Like I said, reel it in and tone it down before action has to be taken beyond your several forum notes, forum ban, and several in-game notes and bans.

I will make a lot of exceptions for a long-term player who's well known, but I'm not about to let you make the server your bitch. Complaints and issues with you are rising, and your attitude is getting worse and worse.

[sammoh]

You didn't even play the round, mate. You killed some monkeys and sat at the barricade while I presume getting your ass chewed out by the admins, so was it really worth it to deny a few larvae? I too have considered monkey genocide at times but if you ask yourself before taking an action "IS THIS META?" and the answer even remotely approaches "Yes" you shouldn't do it. You should know better.

Anyways I'm aware that it's a pain in the ass for the mods and admins to constantly call you out on being shitacular but the public service announcements created in the wake of your misdeeds are beneficial to the community at large. It would be a shame to lose such a valuable teaching tool.

[Ocnjak20]

If you ask me, make a rule. That way they wont be able to get away with it. And trust me there are dicks that will kill monkeys early, even marines. Seen it happen multiple times.

[Desolane900]

You didn't even play the round, mate. You killed some monkeys and sat at the barricade while I presume getting your ass chewed out by the admins, so was it really worth it to deny a few larvae? I too have considered monkey genocide at times but if you ask yourself before taking an action "IS THIS META?" and the answer even remotely approaches "Yes" you shouldn't do it. You should know better.

Anyways I'm aware that it's a pain in the ass for the mods and admins to constantly call you out on being shitacular but the public service announcements created in the wake of your misdeeds are beneficial to the community at large. It would be a shame to lose such a valuable teaching tool.

Well my point is that I had zero intentions of being meta. I'm taking a break anyway.

[Feweh]

The fact that your forum signature is just a bunch of words of you being a self entitled "bad-ass and asshole" is a pretty good example of what Apop is hinting at.

[Desolane900]

The fact that your forum signature is just a bunch of words of you being a self entitled "bad-ass and asshole" is a pretty good example of what Apop is hinting at.

I have no misconceptions about what he's saying, friendo. I comprehend it 100% of the way.

[Desolane900]

As a small update for anyone reading this far down, I've decided I'm going to keep my activities on CM to a bare minimum after all is said and done, along with a hiatus of indiscriminate amounts of time. I really don't want to become the next cylian and it's starting to feel that way in regards to my relations with the server staff. It's been fun.

[Feweh]

As a small update for anyone reading this far down, I've decided I'm going to keep my activities on CM to a bare minimum after all is said and done, along with a hiatus of indiscriminate amounts of time. I really don't want to become the next cylian and it's starting to feel that way in regards to my relations with the server staff. It's been fun.

Hopefully taking some time off will be good for you and youll come back with a better attitude.

[Desolane900]

Hopefully taking some time off will be good for you and youll come back with a better attitude.

That's the plan.

[apophis775]

As a small update for anyone reading this far down, I've decided I'm going to keep my activities on CM to a bare minimum after all is said and done, along with a hiatus of indiscriminate amounts of time. I really don't want to become the next cylian and it's starting to feel that way in regards to my relations with the server staff. It's been fun.

Sometimes, you just need to take a small break. It's much better for you to realize that yourself so you can come back when you feel ready, instead of it being realized for you.

[Desolane900]

Sometimes, you just need to take a small break. It's much better for you to realize that yourself so you can come back when you feel ready, instead of it being realized for you.

I think the problem is stemming from being clean stacked on with a mile high mound of shit irl for the past few months but it's realistically better this way in the long run.