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L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Toroic » 01 Aug 2016, 22:24

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Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here): I play Crusher.

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name): L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?

Yes, have read it many times, especially when I once reported a pred for breaking the first rule.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):
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How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?
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Why should we whitelist you?
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Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?

Nope! Never been banned at all. I have one note here, and it was a simple warning.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?

Never have been banned from any other server, though I once got a warning on paradise for attacking a clown in the eyes with a circular saw.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?

I would hope that would be the case.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Feweh » 01 Aug 2016, 22:32

My biggest worry from you is that you can't roleplay, simply because I've never seen you roleplay.

Other than, fantastic in every other required aspect for predator white-listing.

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Post by Toroic » 01 Aug 2016, 22:44

Feweh wrote:My biggest worry from you is that you can't roleplay, simply because I've never seen you roleplay.

Other than, fantastic in every other required aspect for predator white-listing.
It's a difficult thing to prove, though as I said I've done tabletop (player and DM) as well as years on nwn and nwn2 private servers.

In my mind, RP is a mixture of storytelling and improv. Improv chops are very difficult to prove, but I think I can give some more evidence of some storytelling ability.

http://pastebin.com/uqqrtgrd

Here's a pastebin for some backgrounds from a nwn server that I played on for about 18 months. Character was a thief and a street urchin that eventually was rescued from the slums and became a paladin.

If necessary I'd be willing to play as a marine for a week to demonstrate the ability to play a character with free will.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by ShortTemperedLeprechaun » 01 Aug 2016, 23:43

Heavily leaning towards plus 1. I like the concept, toroic has never been a problem child, and sawing a clown in the eyes with a circular saw earns him brownie points with me. But, as feweh pointed out, my biggest worry is, I've never actually seen him rp, and if i have, I can't point him out, because he's always been a number, and not much else.

Summary, neautral, heavily learning on plus 1.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by LordeKilly » 02 Aug 2016, 00:42

Actually a not shit app for once, the only problem I have is your ckey, and the fact you're an alien player. I don't have a feel for how you play because I play like 1 round a week nowadays, and its hard to know you're the alien i'm playing with. Did you get a name change on the forums?

If it's a name change and I've seen you, then i'll go for a plus 1, but for now,

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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Toroic » 02 Aug 2016, 02:39

LordeKilly wrote:Actually a not shit app for once, the only problem I have is your ckey, and the fact you're an alien player. I don't have a feel for how you play because I play like 1 round a week nowadays, and its hard to know you're the alien i'm playing with. Did you get a name change on the forums?

If it's a name change and I've seen you, then i'll go for a plus 1, but for now,

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No name change for a very long time, and my old name was similar. I only usually play during NA evenings, but if the consensus is that I need to prove my RP chops then I'll play marine for a week.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Boltersam » 02 Aug 2016, 04:32

+1, Toroic is well known around the community, they play well, and they're a nice person to chat to, unfortunately, there's not much RP to be done on the Alien side, but if they say that they have experience roleplaying, I'll take their word.

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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Jdobbin49 » 02 Aug 2016, 07:54

I think I'm gonna go with a +1 too, when you mainly play alien or ONLY play alien it is very hard to show how good you are at RPing, but from the really good app you seem like you would be pretty good, plus I've never had an issue with you as a player and I feel like I can trust you when you say you have experience on RP with D&D and such.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by forwardslashN » 02 Aug 2016, 10:44

I haven't actually read the app, but I intend to. My question is why you are applying in the first place, considering everything I've read from you suggests you dislike the idea of predators and the people who play them. This is before you left and after you came back, so why the application?
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Post by Toroic » 02 Aug 2016, 11:26

forwardslashN wrote:I haven't actually read the app, but I intend to. My question is why you are applying in the first place, considering everything I've read from you suggests you dislike the idea of predators and the people who play them. This is before you left and after you came back, so why the application?
I think predators are a cool idea, and it's clear that a great deal of work was put into coding them. However, I've also been critical of the bad RP that I have seen both from Marines and from Predators.

I was playing when predators were first on the server, and I remember seeing round with Abby as a pred. That definitely left a bad taste in my mouth given the rampant chucklefuckery she engaged in.

Then the round occured that led to this report:
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1) A pred was metabuddy aiding the marines to the point they had an ID labeled "greater friend"
2) I was killed 100-0 after slashing an apc as a hivelord, while stunned
3) The whitelisted pred player (who was briefly staff) lied about every aspect of the incident, which led to their removal from the whitelist.

When said pred player later re-applied they were getting +1s and would absolutely have been re-whitelisted had they not had another incident where they demonstrated poor judgement shortly after the app went up.

So I have experienced some of the worst of the preds, and decided instead of just complaining about how it /should/ be done I would work hard on an app so I could have a direct hand in making it better.

A great deal of what I have been doing for xenos in terms of encouraging a sense of community, writing guides, getting to know other players is to improve the skill and reduce the toxicity in game. From what I have seen, it has reduced the meme-ing and toxicity on the xeno team, and improved coordination for a core group of xeno players. By restricting myself beyond what the rules for xeno allow (see footslash, eating corpses, APC) for the sake of fun for others I try to be an example of a xeno player that is fun to play with and against.

My hope would be that after I learn the ropes as a pred, I could do the same for encouraging a high level of RP without ruining the round.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by ShortTemperedLeprechaun » 02 Aug 2016, 13:26

Toroic wrote:snip
All things considered, I'll be changing to +1 personally, though I still want to see you as a marine, just to get a real feel for what you're capable of rp wise.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Toroic » 02 Aug 2016, 13:27

ShortTemperedLeprechaun wrote: All things considered, I'll be changing to +1 personally, though I still want to see you as a marine, just to get a real feel for what you're capable of rp wise.
Going to be playing marine for a few days for exactly this reason. Trust but verify.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Casany » 02 Aug 2016, 13:51

+1 for me. He is very active on the forums and in game, and his pred app is outstanding.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by forwardslashN » 02 Aug 2016, 16:12

Toroic wrote:snip
+1
I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I actually reported Abby as pred back in the day, so I definitely share some of the sentiments about past predator behavior. You're a long time community member and generally reasonable person, and the application is good, so I''ll vouch for you. One thing though, eating xeno meat usually ends poorly for the gourmet, though I might change that.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by xBoBox3 » 02 Aug 2016, 18:42

Major +1 from me.
As a fellow main xeno player, I know just how robust Toroic is and how much he plays.
I also oftenly see him in deadchat, observing rounds, which makes me think he plays more than he lets us think.
As for RP, I doubt that will ever be a problem as long as you put your mind to it.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Infant Punter » 03 Aug 2016, 16:02

While I'll never agree with you about crusher balance, I can't deny a good application from a good guy.

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Post by Feweh » 03 Aug 2016, 16:24

Stickied for final review.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Toroic » 03 Aug 2016, 17:07

Thank you everyone for the kind words and support. I'll do my best to uphold the trust placed in me.
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Post by Sarah_U. » 04 Aug 2016, 17:19

I personally want to see you on teh hunt no matter what. You've stated you roleplayed in the past and from your words alone I have trust enough you're not lying. Furthermore you've played marine a bit and you're one of the very competent xeno players...

I'm giving you my +1, not just because you're a good player, but also because I'm highly interested in what your character may happen to result into. You're one of the apps I'm looking forward to and want to see approved the most :p
(Also, I trust you you won't be troublesome and actually play the role well)
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Post by Sailor Dave » 06 Aug 2016, 13:12

I would very much like to see Toroic's performance as a predator. He's obviously very community-oriented, and I think that'll reflect well on him on the hunt. Even though it's hard to tell for most as xenos, I can identify him pretty easily as xeno and even there, he's inclined to roleplay.
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Cares about the community as a whole, and is unlikely to abuse things to ruin the round for others. Generally skilled at whatever he attempts.

+1.

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Post by zskninoh » 06 Aug 2016, 16:56

EMT_321 wrote:Cares about the community as a whole, and is unlikely to abuse things to ruin the round for others. Generally skilled at whatever he attempts.

Total: +7
Total +8. Very very solid player, and the app was good.
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Renomaki » 07 Aug 2016, 01:05

Honestly, if you REALLY wanna get some RP points, my advice is to pick jobs that require a lot of RP in order to be bearable. Jobs such as CL, MT and MP, to name a few, are low action jobs that require a fair amount of social interaction and roleplaying to best enjoy them, compared to the more action heavy jobs such as standard or Spec. If you get survivor, they are the BEST for RP if you are able to survive and reach the ship, and even if you don't, RPing out your last moments as you hold out against a swarm of xenos is quite dandy.

As for the App itself, I'm not against you getting pred, but there is one thing that bothers me about the application: The idea of preds being able to do surgery.

I think that is more to the staff to judge more than anything, but in my opinion, I dunno.. Would that be overstepping the bounds of the predator role?
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Re: L'ulij-bpe Dekna (Mad Eyes)

Post by Whistle » 07 Aug 2016, 12:24

+1
A player whom wishes to set an example of the high expectations of the Predator caste.

A solid player whom has written guides for crusher, of which is very in depth in aiding new and old players.
Would love to see a dedicated Xeno show what the server is missing.

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Post by TR-BlackDragon » 10 Aug 2016, 22:27

I will give you a chance at it. So far ive seen good by you. No issues besides rants in ooc but hey many people rant there so im not going to hold that against you.

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