Cesar Kelly metagaming for 'Muh Valids'

[Radimir]

Your Byond Key: Garrus

Your Character Name: Bill Hudson

Accused Byond Key(if known): Unknown

Character Name: Cesar Kelly

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 8/4/2016, 2:30 PM Central Time

What rule(s) were broken: Metagaming

Description of the incident: Xenomorphs at the time were friendly, and actually a few letting us pet them and dancing at us. I was in fact standing next to a hunter, and they had not done anything hostile yet. Cesar rounds the corner, screaming "XENOS" and blasts away, friendly firing half of Charlie Squad, and causing the xenos to switch to hostile. Yes I know, lore-wise the aliens are hostile. Lore-wise, we don't KNOW they are hostile on first contact though. And these had demonstrated to either be tame or non-hostile.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): I didn't pull logs as I was more worried about living after Cesar friendly fired me about seven times in the chest.

How you would punish the accused: At the very least a temporary ban. That was horrendous to kill marines for 'muh valids'

[Warnipple]

First rule for Xenomorphs:

You are a Xenomorph
Act like one. Your are not a pet or best friends with the marines.

Looks like they are breaking Xenomorph rules.

That being said, what this person did was really shitty but not worthy of a ban.

[Radimir]

Yeah except he did not even hit the xenomorph. He DID kill three charlie marines, and put me into near crit. The doctor even commented on the Sully that he pulled AP rounds out of me.

[supertanner824]

Still, the slightest thought that a human, a tiny, tiny human, would approach a long, reptilian and chitin covered monster, that is inhabiting the colony that has sent a distress beacon (not to mention the long claws most castes would have), and managing to sit there and pet it...not sure who this report should be for. Guy shouldn't get a ban, I don't think. If anything, job ban the alien for a few days (is that even fucking possible)

[Radimir]

I get that the xenos were breaking rules/rp. However, why are we going to essentially punish attempts from the marines to roleplay? This is a medium-rp server, correct?

If I just wanted multiplayer 'shoot all the xenos' Id go play that shitty colonial marines game. Or some AvP. But here there is some roleplay. Charlie squad had at that point found a non-hostile alien species that seemed somewhat intelligent. At least to the level of a primate. Sure it looked scary, but we're marines, damn it! And even the very big one, the ravager, let us pet it! And we had no information on these things being what had killed all the W-Y employees. For all we knew these were just weird looking lizard-things, that danced in front of us.

At the point he burst in and just gunned the marines down (because he didn't even hit the xenomorphs with his pulse rifles, just the five or so marines screaming "WHAT? NO! WHAT ARE YOU DOING, STOP! THEY ARE FRIENDLY!) we were discussing bringing one back onto the Sulaco, and trying to communicate using a voice analyzer, or other research tools.

Instead Valid Salad comes in and decides to shoot fellow marines for daring to not shoot things on sight.

[Feweh]

This is what I call a double shit.

1. Xenos fucking being pets
2. Marines fucking petting the xenos and being cool with them.

No one is getting punished as there was bullshit from each side.

[outordinary]

This is what I call a double shit.

1. Xenos fucking being pets
2. Marines fucking petting the xenos and being cool with them.

No one is getting punished as there was bullshit from each side.

First rule for Xenomorphs:

You are a Xenomorph
Act like one. Your are not a pet or best friends with the marines.

Looks like they are breaking Xenomorph rules.

That being said, what this person did was really shitty but not worthy of a ban.

Well damn, gotta remember this, if I see someone petting the xenos, time to friendly fire their asses down. I heard it here so I'll remember to reference it when it happens.

PTSD acting up, all I see is fukken xenos man, shoot em' all!

[Radimir]

So can Feweh or Warnipple tell the moderators to fuck off bwoinking marines whenever they shoot xenos on first contact? In fact can we remove that whole first contact rule, if treating them as non-hostile until they prove hostile isn't even a thing?

And yeah, still the dude didn't even shoot the alien. He shot marines. He had AP loaded at round start and fired into a bunch of marines, and did not once hit the xenos.