How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
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How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Alright, so with Ice Colony forcing masks, I've gotten triggered enough to make a guide on how to not piss off a doctor as a marine, how to prep a patient for hand off to a doctor, and how to BE a doctor.
HOW TO NOT PISS OFF A DOCTOR and prepping a patient
- QUIT WHINING ABOUT NOT GETTING TREATED FOR A BROKEN LEG WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH BUSTED LUNGS
- STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MEDBAY IF YOU ARE NOT INJURED! If you're dropping someone off, fine, get the fuck out after
- Take your mask and backpack/satchel/whatever off beforehand if you can, it's seriously annoying to have to do this a million times and speeds up surgery
- Medics should scan wounded on the shuttle and treat what they can. If someone is in crit for a lung, quick clot and dexalin so the doc won't have to rush and do it at Medbay, THEN go to surgery. Doing that in the shuttle means they can go right to surgery
- I cannot stress this enough, STAY OUT OF MEDBAY IF YOU ARE NOT WOUNDED. I don't care if you're a medic. Unless I tell you to stay, GET OUT
- Don't whine about not getting peri. I know it makes it easier on the ground but sometimes docs are busy at roundstart or simply don't know how to make it
- FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, if a doc makes Bicardine, TAKE IT! It's amazing for trauma damage
HOW TO BE A GOOD DOCTOR
- Recognize that you can't rely on anyone else, you're probably the only competent person around
- Press the freezer on button at cryo when the round starts
- Put an IV stand in each Operating Room
- Try and make Peridaxone (treats organ damage), Bicardine (Treats brute damage), and Dermaline (Treats heavy burns, is the bane of spitters)
- Totally don't sneak 3u hyperzine pills to the marines as emergency pills
- Scan everyone who's injured as your medhud is deceiving. That guy who has a slight ding in the bar could have organ damage and need surgery
- KNOW YOUR SURGICAL TOOLS!
- Prioritize patients. The guy with a broken skull will live if he stays still, the girl with the punctured lung won't
- Carry the proper emergency injectors! (Quick clot, Bicardine, Dexalin)
- GIVE PATIENTS TRAMADOL!
- Carry a hypospray with bicardine and dermaline in it, maybe some dexalin
- If some meta fuckface alien decides to be a bitch and melt the surgery table, just use a roller bed instead
- Give a patient Tramadol and antibiotics after surgery!
- Wash your hands when you can
SURGERY AND YOU
Surgery is very easy to memorize if you understand WHAT you're doing. Read about the tools below and think about what you're using them to do, and why. It's 2+2.
Scalpel - Cuts flesh so you can access body
Hemostat- Manipulates organs/flesh/etc, clamps bleeding flesh
Retractor - Moves bone or flesh back and forth
Bone setter - Do I really have to explain this one?
Bone saw - Drills through bones, aka chest and head
Bone gel - Medicates and sticks bones together
Cautery - Burns flesh, closes wounds
Fix-o-vein - Fixes arteries and veins, used in the head and chest mostly
Drill - I never use this shit
Nanopaste - Never use this either
Advanced trauma kit - Absolutely essential to surgery as it goes on organs
KNOW YOUR DRUGS AND TREATMENTS
Brute damage = Bicardine, Advanced Trauma Kit
Burn damage = Kelotane, Dermaline
Oxygen damage = Dexalin (oxygen damage is 99% of the time either a punctured lung or blood loss)
Toxin damage = Dovaline (medics probably ODing your patient)
Tramadol is a good painkiller, give it to marines in the field and at medbay
Antibiotics prevent and treat infection. Overdose is 30u, be careful as it takes FOREVER to go away
HOW TO PROPERLY TREAT A LUNG PUNCTURE
- Poke patient with some Dexalin to delay oxygen damage
- Poke with Quick Clot as well
- Quickly treat any other wounds to lower overall damage
- Get in surgery IMMEDIATELY
- Incision chest to open, retract to pull skin back, saw chest bones to access lungs, retract again to move bones, apply Advanced trauma kit to fix lungs, THEN clamp the bleeders with a hemostat. This way you're stopping the oxy damage from rapidly progressing.
Same thing with larva extractions, just hemostat twice instead of trauma kit.
HOW TO BE A BAD DOCTOR/MEDIC
- Be a lazy fat fuck and stuff patients with peri instead of doing actual surgery, when peri can take forever to work, if it even decides to work
- Overdose your patient on Tricord/Antibiotics/Quick clot
- Pull your patient and make their wounds way worse, instead of grabbing and dragging
- Use splints if you're on the Sulaco
- Tell marines they need to evac for broken hands
- Sit in medbay and get in every doctors way ever until they beat your ass up and throw you out
- As a medic, start a blood transfusion while a doctor is working on a patient, WITH THE WRONG FUCKING BLOOD TYPE
HOW TO NOT PISS OFF A DOCTOR and prepping a patient
- QUIT WHINING ABOUT NOT GETTING TREATED FOR A BROKEN LEG WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH BUSTED LUNGS
- STAY THE FUCK OUT OF MEDBAY IF YOU ARE NOT INJURED! If you're dropping someone off, fine, get the fuck out after
- Take your mask and backpack/satchel/whatever off beforehand if you can, it's seriously annoying to have to do this a million times and speeds up surgery
- Medics should scan wounded on the shuttle and treat what they can. If someone is in crit for a lung, quick clot and dexalin so the doc won't have to rush and do it at Medbay, THEN go to surgery. Doing that in the shuttle means they can go right to surgery
- I cannot stress this enough, STAY OUT OF MEDBAY IF YOU ARE NOT WOUNDED. I don't care if you're a medic. Unless I tell you to stay, GET OUT
- Don't whine about not getting peri. I know it makes it easier on the ground but sometimes docs are busy at roundstart or simply don't know how to make it
- FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, if a doc makes Bicardine, TAKE IT! It's amazing for trauma damage
HOW TO BE A GOOD DOCTOR
- Recognize that you can't rely on anyone else, you're probably the only competent person around
- Press the freezer on button at cryo when the round starts
- Put an IV stand in each Operating Room
- Try and make Peridaxone (treats organ damage), Bicardine (Treats brute damage), and Dermaline (Treats heavy burns, is the bane of spitters)
- Totally don't sneak 3u hyperzine pills to the marines as emergency pills
- Scan everyone who's injured as your medhud is deceiving. That guy who has a slight ding in the bar could have organ damage and need surgery
- KNOW YOUR SURGICAL TOOLS!
- Prioritize patients. The guy with a broken skull will live if he stays still, the girl with the punctured lung won't
- Carry the proper emergency injectors! (Quick clot, Bicardine, Dexalin)
- GIVE PATIENTS TRAMADOL!
- Carry a hypospray with bicardine and dermaline in it, maybe some dexalin
- If some meta fuckface alien decides to be a bitch and melt the surgery table, just use a roller bed instead
- Give a patient Tramadol and antibiotics after surgery!
- Wash your hands when you can
SURGERY AND YOU
Surgery is very easy to memorize if you understand WHAT you're doing. Read about the tools below and think about what you're using them to do, and why. It's 2+2.
Scalpel - Cuts flesh so you can access body
Hemostat- Manipulates organs/flesh/etc, clamps bleeding flesh
Retractor - Moves bone or flesh back and forth
Bone setter - Do I really have to explain this one?
Bone saw - Drills through bones, aka chest and head
Bone gel - Medicates and sticks bones together
Cautery - Burns flesh, closes wounds
Fix-o-vein - Fixes arteries and veins, used in the head and chest mostly
Drill - I never use this shit
Nanopaste - Never use this either
Advanced trauma kit - Absolutely essential to surgery as it goes on organs
KNOW YOUR DRUGS AND TREATMENTS
Brute damage = Bicardine, Advanced Trauma Kit
Burn damage = Kelotane, Dermaline
Oxygen damage = Dexalin (oxygen damage is 99% of the time either a punctured lung or blood loss)
Toxin damage = Dovaline (medics probably ODing your patient)
Tramadol is a good painkiller, give it to marines in the field and at medbay
Antibiotics prevent and treat infection. Overdose is 30u, be careful as it takes FOREVER to go away
HOW TO PROPERLY TREAT A LUNG PUNCTURE
- Poke patient with some Dexalin to delay oxygen damage
- Poke with Quick Clot as well
- Quickly treat any other wounds to lower overall damage
- Get in surgery IMMEDIATELY
- Incision chest to open, retract to pull skin back, saw chest bones to access lungs, retract again to move bones, apply Advanced trauma kit to fix lungs, THEN clamp the bleeders with a hemostat. This way you're stopping the oxy damage from rapidly progressing.
Same thing with larva extractions, just hemostat twice instead of trauma kit.
HOW TO BE A BAD DOCTOR/MEDIC
- Be a lazy fat fuck and stuff patients with peri instead of doing actual surgery, when peri can take forever to work, if it even decides to work
- Overdose your patient on Tricord/Antibiotics/Quick clot
- Pull your patient and make their wounds way worse, instead of grabbing and dragging
- Use splints if you're on the Sulaco
- Tell marines they need to evac for broken hands
- Sit in medbay and get in every doctors way ever until they beat your ass up and throw you out
- As a medic, start a blood transfusion while a doctor is working on a patient, WITH THE WRONG FUCKING BLOOD TYPE
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Sometime i want to fill my hypospray with a fucking anesthetic so whoever marines that DECIDE to be brother in arms shit and wait for the fucking patient to heal can be thrown out and give me more SPACE to work.
You dont know how frustating is it to constantly bump into a marine and waste your fucking precious second that ended up larva bursting from someone and say fuck you to your face.
You dont know how frustating is it to constantly bump into a marine and waste your fucking precious second that ended up larva bursting from someone and say fuck you to your face.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Or new doctors who won't say if they've done a surgery before, yet hover over someone with a ruptured lung blocking you.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
>Be doctor on Whiskey Outpost.
>have the other doctors be boots and baldies.
>Baldies end up killing more marines with quick clot then saving them.
>Be stressed and trying to help around 20 people all with broken bones.
>end up having a panic attack.
>a rouge Xeno comes in and kills me.
>so happy.
>have the other doctors be boots and baldies.
>Baldies end up killing more marines with quick clot then saving them.
>Be stressed and trying to help around 20 people all with broken bones.
>end up having a panic attack.
>a rouge Xeno comes in and kills me.
>so happy.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
I feel the need to add some crap to this;
Infected wounds; you can use ointment or the advanced burn kit to disinfect the wound when the health analyzer says to do so. I usually apply them after a surgery when I haven't washed my hands because the game will punish you if you don't.
Last stage of infection; I don't really get this. When it tells you than the patient needs >30 u of antibiotics (greater than sign, guys), that tells me that you need to intentionally overdose them on antibiotics in order to kill whatever is in their system, yet my own doctors protest that against me and call me a baldie. It's not like I'm not constantly observing my patient and making sure that he immediately doesn't fall over and die, I'm making sure whatever bacteria is in him is dead. If he starts crashing, throw him in the sleeper and use dialysis to clear out the excess antibiotics.
Drill; The drill is for hiding shit in your patients but they would also need a surgery in order to get the item out. So, it's kind of useless since implanters automatically do this.
Nanopaste; Specifically for those with mechanical organs, I think. Mechanical heart, etc.
Mechanical limbs; Probably the bane of doctors because it counts as damage on the health scanner. There isn't much we can do for them so call for an engie.
Infected wounds; you can use ointment or the advanced burn kit to disinfect the wound when the health analyzer says to do so. I usually apply them after a surgery when I haven't washed my hands because the game will punish you if you don't.
Last stage of infection; I don't really get this. When it tells you than the patient needs >30 u of antibiotics (greater than sign, guys), that tells me that you need to intentionally overdose them on antibiotics in order to kill whatever is in their system, yet my own doctors protest that against me and call me a baldie. It's not like I'm not constantly observing my patient and making sure that he immediately doesn't fall over and die, I'm making sure whatever bacteria is in him is dead. If he starts crashing, throw him in the sleeper and use dialysis to clear out the excess antibiotics.
Drill; The drill is for hiding shit in your patients but they would also need a surgery in order to get the item out. So, it's kind of useless since implanters automatically do this.
Nanopaste; Specifically for those with mechanical organs, I think. Mechanical heart, etc.
Mechanical limbs; Probably the bane of doctors because it counts as damage on the health scanner. There isn't much we can do for them so call for an engie.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
I get pissed off when people have injured mechanical INTERNAL ORGANS.
PERIDAXON DOES NOTHING SO I HAVE TO DO SURGERY TO FIX YOUR FUCKED UP MECHANICAL HEART AND EYES.
PERIDAXON DOES NOTHING SO I HAVE TO DO SURGERY TO FIX YOUR FUCKED UP MECHANICAL HEART AND EYES.
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WARNING: FAILURE TO FOLLOW ABOVE GUIDELINES WHILE I AM PLAYING DOCTOR WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE PARALYSITIC APPLIED TO OFFENDER UNTIL THEY ARE PROPERLY DEALT WITH. (Caution: more severe cases will have me leave you paralysed in the naughty corner until it wears off. Threatening a doctor with a weapon will add you to the kidney donor list, the naughty corner, and confiscation of all weapons on your person, which will then be ejected into space by a friendly MT.)
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And don't forget the Golden rule.
DON'T TELL THE DOCTOR OR MEDIC HOW TO DO THEIR JOB!
Im so fucking triggered when the other telling you to do your job when you are trying to save their life.
"Oh not you shouldn't do that you must do this!" SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE I DECIDE TO OVERDOSE YOU WITH ANESTHETIC
"You just put me inside statis bag now i have genetic damage GG NO REEEEEE" YOU HAVE FUCKING RUPTURED LUNGS, BROKEN RIBS, BLEEDING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THE FUCKING ALIEN IS CHASING US, IM TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE ASSHOLE.
"S-s-plint me" Nah mate you are going back to Sulaco, you need medivac "J-j-ust splint me and g-give me Tr-amadol!" Nu uh. "YOU S-SHITY MEDIC!" proceed to do what he ask for, and wait for Tramadol effect to wore off to collect his corpse.
Remember marines. We choose this job because we have AT LEAST the basic knowledge on how to do it. We may be not your best robust doctor that can do surgery with 3 people or a medic that don't let anyone die. BUT... WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO DO OUR JOB AND SAVE YOUR ASS.
DON'T TELL THE DOCTOR OR MEDIC HOW TO DO THEIR JOB!
Im so fucking triggered when the other telling you to do your job when you are trying to save their life.
"Oh not you shouldn't do that you must do this!" SHUT THE FUCK UP BEFORE I DECIDE TO OVERDOSE YOU WITH ANESTHETIC
"You just put me inside statis bag now i have genetic damage GG NO REEEEEE" YOU HAVE FUCKING RUPTURED LUNGS, BROKEN RIBS, BLEEDING ALL OVER THE PLACE AND THE FUCKING ALIEN IS CHASING US, IM TRYING TO SAVE YOUR LIFE ASSHOLE.
"S-s-plint me" Nah mate you are going back to Sulaco, you need medivac "J-j-ust splint me and g-give me Tr-amadol!" Nu uh. "YOU S-SHITY MEDIC!" proceed to do what he ask for, and wait for Tramadol effect to wore off to collect his corpse.
Remember marines. We choose this job because we have AT LEAST the basic knowledge on how to do it. We may be not your best robust doctor that can do surgery with 3 people or a medic that don't let anyone die. BUT... WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO DO OUR JOB AND SAVE YOUR ASS.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
So true..EXOTICISME wrote:DON'T TELL THE DOCTOR OR MEDIC HOW TO DO THEIR JOB!
On the same note, if you are a doctor or medic, don't interfere with another doctor/medic's work. If a patient is already being attended to, switch to someone else and trust them to do their own thing. Stepping in to help out is usually what causes OD.. If you really wanna help especially in emergency situations, communicate with them at least, or do something that will likely not conflict with what they are already doing.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
One thing I learned as a doctor is: Not to use anesthetic injectors over anesthetic tanks during surgery. The person being operated on is bound to wake up in the middle of an operation, and even if you complete it beforehand, I noticed that their body appears to stop working until the chem leaves their system.
Just stick with the tired and true anesthetic tank and mask. It might waste a few seconds, but at least you won't have someone screaming at you in the middle of an operation.
Also, be ready for surprises.. Sometimes you think you fixed someone, only to discover that they weren't fixed and waste time putting them back on the operating table to find out what went wrong.. Had that happen once during skull repair, for some reason it kept on breaking and I had no idea why.. Then I found out why, and let the shame overcome me silently...
Just stick with the tired and true anesthetic tank and mask. It might waste a few seconds, but at least you won't have someone screaming at you in the middle of an operation.
Also, be ready for surprises.. Sometimes you think you fixed someone, only to discover that they weren't fixed and waste time putting them back on the operating table to find out what went wrong.. Had that happen once during skull repair, for some reason it kept on breaking and I had no idea why.. Then I found out why, and let the shame overcome me silently...
Sometimes, bravery comes from the most unlikely sources.
An inspirational song for when ye be feeling blue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_zvuPw8xU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_zvuPw8xU
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
If I recall correctly, anesthetic injectors use a small dose of chloral to knock someone out instantly and a larger dose of soporific at the same time due to chloral's tendency to be slightly lethal. Unfortunately, soporific often just leaves someone in a half awake state. So basically, once the initial chloral fades, your patient is going to wake up with their guts on display but have enough soporific in them to prevent them from moving. And that is why anesthetic injector surgery would be possibly the worst form of torture IRL. So remember, only use it on marines who deserve that kind of suffering (roughly 75%).Renomaki wrote:One thing I learned as a doctor is: Not to use anesthetic injectors over anesthetic tanks during surgery. The person being operated on is bound to wake up in the middle of an operation, and even if you complete it beforehand, I noticed that their body appears to stop working until the chem leaves their system.
Also, for anyone who may not know, dylovene removes soporific from the system if you need to wake someone up.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Please don't do this as a medic if you dont fix the resulting bleeding. I've seen far too many patients show up in medbay with bloodloss from wounds that are actively bleeding when they get to medbay.Medics should scan wounded on the shuttle and treat what they can. If someone is in crit for a lung, quick clot and dexalin so the doc won't have to rush and do it at Medbay, THEN go to surgery. Doing that in the shuttle means they can go right to surgery
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
That is the thing I hate about a lot of medics... Even if the person has to be sent back for an operation, you should heal them up the best you can so they have a higher chance of SURVIVING THE TRIP. I myself died on at least one trip due to negligence, and ever since then, when I go medic, I don't do sloppy jobs on marines.
Hell, even when I am not a medic, if I have some wraps, I'm going to use it to help other marines with their wounds until I can get a medic to heal him proper.
Hell, even when I am not a medic, if I have some wraps, I'm going to use it to help other marines with their wounds until I can get a medic to heal him proper.
Sometimes, bravery comes from the most unlikely sources.
An inspirational song for when ye be feeling blue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_zvuPw8xU
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5_zvuPw8xU
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Reminds me of a WO round I had. Jesus Christ.Renomaki wrote:That is the thing I hate about a lot of medics... Even if the person has to be sent back for an operation, you should heal them up the best you can so they have a higher chance of SURVIVING THE TRIP. I myself died on at least one trip due to negligence, and ever since then, when I go medic, I don't do sloppy jobs on marines.
Hell, even when I am not a medic, if I have some wraps, I'm going to use it to help other marines with their wounds until I can get a medic to heal him proper.
I got headshotted near point blank, though I patched myself up after stealing an SSD baldie doctor's ID.
Most of them were baldies so I was stuck treating marines with advanced trauma kits and telling them to fuck off.
I dosed up on Alkysine and Peri because I still had a broken skull.
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "THERE'S A DRONE AND A TON OF INFECTED LEFT."
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Pretty sure Alkysine doesn't fix brain damage, or that's what I remember somebody saying. Well, the brain damage from broken skulls.SPACEpotato1 wrote: Reminds me of a WO round I had. Jesus Christ.
I got headshotted near point blank, though I patched myself up after stealing an SSD baldie doctor's ID.
Most of them were baldies so I was stuck treating marines with advanced trauma kits and telling them to fuck off.
I dosed up on Alkysine and Peri because I still had a broken skull.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
That's correct. There are two types of brain damage and alkysine doesn't heal the kind from physical damage. I've never actually seen someone use alkysine successfully. Don't quote me on this, but I think alkysine can help with stasis bag brain damage. Or do they only cause genetic damage... guess I never really looked into that.Mech__Warrior wrote: Pretty sure Alkysine doesn't fix brain damage, or that's what I remember somebody saying. Well, the brain damage from broken skulls.
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Peri + AlkyisineDisco Dalek wrote: That's correct. There are two types of brain damage and alkysine doesn't heal the kind from physical damage. I've never actually seen someone use alkysine successfully. Don't quote me on this, but I think alkysine can help with stasis bag brain damage. Or do they only cause genetic damage... guess I never really looked into that.
To be fair, was playing standard and I stole some baldie's ID.
I was nearly dead, in fact I nearly went into crit before reaching the vendor. So I kind of just used anything that said "THIS FIXES BRAIN DAMAGE AND ORGAN STUFF"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "THERE'S A DRONE AND A TON OF INFECTED LEFT."
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
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Honestly, I think it heals people who have just recently been cloned, but Ryetalyn is in Clone Fix to fix that. I'm pretty sure it's Ryetalyn.SPACEpotato1 wrote: Peri + Alkyisine
To be fair, was playing standard and I stole some baldie's ID.
I was nearly dead, in fact I nearly went into crit before reaching the vendor. So I kind of just used anything that said "THIS FIXES BRAIN DAMAGE AND ORGAN STUFF"
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Peri fixes ALL organ damage. The brain, and the eyes count as organs. Once I figured that out, I never made alkysine again.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Yep. I chugged down 2 peri pills the first time I got into medbay.JPR wrote:Peri fixes ALL organ damage. The brain, and the eyes count as organs. Once I figured that out, I never made alkysine again.
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "THERE'S A DRONE AND A TON OF INFECTED LEFT."
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."
Thy hero potato hath returned
Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'
Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"
Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
At least with Alkysine, you don't need plasma, but eh.JPR wrote:Peri fixes ALL organ damage. The brain, and the eyes count as organs. Once I figured that out, I never made alkysine again.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Alkysine's easier to mix, and I used to make an alky/imidzolane mix for head wounds (if there's brain damage, THERE IS eye damage. Not sure why, but always true in my experience), but as for ease of use? Research has FIFTY plasma sheets, and with 2 dexalin pill, you can make 120u of perdiox, AND, if you pre-mix the 120u of bicard for the last step in a separate large beaker, you can streamline the process to not need to remove the plasma, so yeah.Mech__Warrior wrote: At least with Alkysine, you don't need plasma, but eh.
Hell, if you're scary-economical, and I'll sometimes do this when making bulk perdiox, the first step requires 2 dex pills (Free, but you have to remove the extra dex, or make a larger batch.), 20u of water from the sink (Free), and 20u oxygen from the dispenser (2 power). Second step needs plasma (Free), but 60u sodium (6 power). Third step needs 120u bicard, which can be made in a REGULAR large beaker from a 60u inaprov bottle (Free), and 60u carbon (6 power).
Dump steps 2&3 together and you got your 120 perdiox for 14 power and THREE steps, almost as cheap as a base chem, and pretty simple to make too! Compare this to the 4+2+2+6+6+6, 26 power, and 6 steps for making it by following the wiki process (assuming you're smart enough to remove the plasma so you don't get a side reaction when trying to make inaprov for step 5...)... and yeah. Roundstart dispenser can make a whopping 840u of perdiox ROUNDSTART while still having power left, assuming the research one didn't exist, and the machine isn't recharging. When I follow THAT process, I've actually had more perdiox than I can give out, though that's due to people not taking it
Also, my standard hypospray-based treatment plug. Take a hypospray. Empty it out with a needle. Fill it with perdiox. You now have 6 INSTANT 5u doses. Never mess around with pill bottles and pills again. What's that? It RAN OUT? That's why you got 2 more 60u bottles in your lifesaver bag. Pop one out, fill'er up, and go back to being the doctor the marines need.
... screwit, FULL MED LIST WITH OPTIMAL RECIPES AND LOADOUT.
Personally, I have 4 labeled hypos on me at all times, loaded as listed.
Healmix-20u bicard, 20u tricord, 10u dex+, 10u tramadol- Basically the optimal mix for our server, and absurdly powerful at stabilizing due to the dex+, though in most cases, you gotta piledrive at least half the hypo before they have enough to deal with more than scratch damage (but REAL good at dosing controls, and designed that dumping 30u into an untreated 'rine, OR one with a single tricord hypo won't cause an overdose, so safe to use!). The most difficult to make, but can be made RELATIVELY simply in 300u batches.
1. Steal the bluespace beaker. Dump in 2 bottles of inaprov and one of anti-tox. Add 60u carbon. Place in backpack.
2. Run and get 2 dex pills. Add 20u carbon, and 20u iron to a REGULAR, 60u beaker, then dump both pills into the beaker. Due to 60u beaker limit, you'll be left with 60u if dex+. Dump it into the bluespace beaker.
3. Make 6 bottles with 50u each, proportions as given up top, except no tramadol.
4. Get a bottle of tramadol pills, dissolve one in each bottle.
360u done, and only uses 10 power and requires 4 steps. The most difficult part is honestly making the 6 bottles due to chemmaster limits (Can only store 120u in buffer, get ready to press buttons).
*Fill your hypo, head to the rasputin, amaze everyone by dealing with the 6 critical marines before they can even be dragged off to medbay.*
Burnmix- 30u dermaline, 30u kelotane- Marginal utility, but there are 3 main damage types, and easy to prepare, so... yeah.
1. Grab a 120u beaker, fill it with 20u phosphorous, and 20u oxygen.
2. Grab a kelotane pill bottle, dissolve pills till the bottle's full.
Makes 120u (2 bottles), costs 4 power and 2 steps. Simple, not much to say, deliberately does not contain tricord for ease of prep, and my healmix has tricord.
*Fill and label a hypo, forget about it till the boiler comes knocking.*
Antitox+ -40u antitox, 20u spacacillin- A staple against toxic wounds and for surgery. Give EVERYONE you do surgery on 2-3 jabs, and you never need to worry about infection. Be careful with abusing it, though, as spaceacillin stays around for a while (Safe, unless someone else is dropping pills down his throat). Also criminally easy to make.
1. Grab the bluespace beaker. Dump 2 antitox bottles in.
2. Grab a antibiotic pill bottle, dump 60u worth of pills in. You're done.
Makes 180u (3 bottles), costs ZERO power, and 2 steps. Literally free, and pretty self-descriptive. Also deliberately does not contain tricord, same reasons.
*Fill your hypo, forget about it till you run out after like 12 surgeries, realize it's the silent hero.*
Perdiox- 60u perdiox (PREETY SIMPLE, RIGHT?)- Yeah. With the previous recipe, you should have enough to give ANYONE a single jab if they have damage, before they mention anything. A staple of the FOB doctor, as scanning facilities and surgery time are very limited down there.
Recipe restated for clarity, and idiot-proofing with larger number of steps.
1. Get the bluespace beaker, 2 dex pills, 20u of water from the sink, 20u oxygen from the dispenser, and 60u sodium from the dispenser. Combine.
2. Remove excess dexalin via chemmaster.
3. Grind plasma into bluespace beaker (2 sheets if possible, but you can get by with one). Put bluespace beaker in backpack.
4. Mix 120u bicard in a REGULAR large beaker from a 60u inaprov bottle, and 60u carbon .
5. Dump the REGULAR beaker INTO the bluespace beaker.
Makes 120u (2 bottles), costs 14 power, slightly larger step list for clarity. Hit ANYONE with broken bones/ UNEXPLAINED DAMAGE with a single jab.
*Run into medbay as the other guys are struggling to deal with 14 casualties with broken chests, treat ALL the organ damage within 20 seconds and 2 refills.*
If you make ONE batch of each of this list, that'll cost you 28 power and make 13 bottles. A CLB can hold 21 items. Personally, I put all the bottles in my CLB (Label them using either a labeler or the chemmaster, and put the lids on all of the spare ones, so you only have 4 open bottles at any one time, for ease-of-use), then add 5 quick-clots (I DON'T hypo those b/c I want to know how many I have left, they're the most important tool you can have), then add 2 advanced trauma packs and an advanced burn pack. That fills my CLB. Make another batch of perdiox for the other docs (Watch them ignore it... EVEN WHEN TOLD...).
My standard loadout is this, and it's HEAVILY biased for a FOB doc, as you can treat anything pretty much optimally and instantly.
Standard surgery outfit (mask, gloves, ect...)
Eyes- Medhud. ALWAYS HAVE ONE. MOST IMPORTANT THING. Without this, you're just guessing.
Belt- CLB, loaded as listed.
Pockets- "Healmix" hypospray and health scanner (Ease of access, as most commonly used items)
Suit storage- Either a flashlight if FOB doc, or a advanced trauma kit if sulaco-side.
Backpack (7 items)
----- "Burnmix" and "Antitox+" hyposprays (Moderate ease of access, but not as essential)
----- Surgery mask and Anesthetic tank (Moderate ease of access, and only real place they fit)
----- An advanced first aid kit. (7 items) Label it SOMETHING like "Surgical Tools" to keep it from being taken.
---------- All surgical tools except the DRILL (useless), the Nanopaste (VERY marginal), and the FIx-o-vein (in another box).
----- A regular first aid kit. (7 items) Label it SOMETHING like "Surgical Supplies" to keep it from being taken.
---------- The "Perdiox" hypo (Usually unneeded unless you're going to do surgery), 3 O- blood bags (Medbay got plenty, and when you need it, YOU NEED IT), the Fix-o-vein (Marginal, but brain surgery uses it), the stethoscope (WHERE YOU'RE GOING, THERE ARE NO ADVANCED BODY SCANNERS!... but really just for show), and the CMO's penlight if you can swing it (Can diagnose blindness, handy), or a backup health scanner if you can't (A spare's always nice.).
----- And FREE SLOT! Bring whatever you want here. I usually bring a spare anesthetic tank, as after a dozen or so surgeries, the tank runs dry.
Suit slots- M1911 and ONE magazine. You don't fight. This is for EITHER supressive fire at the FoB, OR killing facehuggers. Don't be COMBATDOC, you have more important things.
Hands- Carry a folded roller bed (for surgery)
Pull- Pull an IV for the blood you're carrying.
Deployment- Unfold bed, park the IV next to you, drop the mask and tank, and put one of your surgery kits on either side of you. You now have access to ALL tools of a full surgery by drag-clicking the kits, AND you have perdiox with you, AND you have your standard medical arsenal as WELL! You are the FoB doc! Additionally, Yakety-saxing out takes like 15 seconds (Grab the 4 items, fold the bed, and pull the IV.
Standard triage. The dropship has just arrived, wounded inbound. You're outside the pad.
It arrives, first thing you see is 3 guys, one is blinking red, another is dark-red, another is light-yellow with a missing leg.
Sprint in. Get past all the other people trying to drag them off to medbay, and jab each of them with a healmix shot, 2 if you can swing it.
Let "them" pull the patients off, while re-filling your hypo.
Did either of their health bars jump up massively? That's indicative of organ damage, get your perdiox hypo and give-em a jab. Hell, give ALL of them a jab as they're being brought to medbay.
YOU WILL NOTE you haven't used your health scanner yet, because you DIDN'T need it, and it takes up those critical seconds. Healmix fixes everything, and perdiox is good practice.
NOW, scan them. I'm gonna assume there's another decent doc, and a baldie.
Hand the one with the missing leg to the baldie. It's relatively easy to do, and he's not in critical danger, BUT be sure to check up on him, and scan him before he leaves. NEXT.
The dark-red one has 60-ish brute damage, a broken chest, and no organ damage. Only chems present are a trace of tramadol from the healmix previously. Pass him to the experienced doc, and optionally pile-drive your whole heal-mix hypo into him. Won't hurt. NEXT.
The blinking-red one has a broken ribs, a collapsed lung, 80 brute to the chest and an infection, no organ damage (remember the perdiox...), internal bleeding, a 40% blood level, AND a broken head with no damage. No chems except a trace of tramadol. Overall health is about -85. Ouch.
Totally fixable, but work fast. Hit him with more healmix (Optionally, swear at the medic). The dex+ will keep popping him out of crit, and the healing effect's good. Quick-clot him, THEN advance-trauma-kit the chest. Get him on an IV as soon as possible, this one NEEDS that blood you got in the kit. Jab him 3 times with the antitox+, then take him to surger... OH WAIT, BOTH ARE IN USE! No problem, you're prepped for surgery outside! Unpack your kit, and give him a taste of ACTUAL doctoring. Fix his chest, THEN hit him with perdiox for the lung, then get his head. Scan him, take your stuff off him, load back up, THEN check on the other two. The baldie probably replaced the wrong leg, while the experienced one's probably finishing up. Assist as needed, and wait for the next wave.
Additional chems-
Radmix- It's been TEN FREAKING MINUTES and you start hallucinating and taking unexplained damage. WELL SHIT, SM BLEW UP. Expect the entire marine complement to break in within 60 sec, expecting treatment. OKAY THEN. LET'S DO THIS.
1. STEAL the bluespace beaker. Dump 3 bottles of antitox in.
2. Add 60u radium, 60u hydrogen, and 30u carbon. This gives you a mix of 120u antitox, 60u hyronalin, 60u arithrizane, and 60u ryetalin. Keep beaker in one hand.
3 Get a hypospray, empty it into someone, and hold it in your other hands. Fill it.
You have 300u of radmix, and 2-3 jabs SHOULD be enough to deal with someone once they get off the exposed deck. You just made enough anti-rad drugs to treat 20-30 people in UNDER 60 SECONDS, AND you can treat 30 people in LESS THAN 30 SECONDS, and the only side effect is very minor brute! Who needs russian red!
Synaptizine and Hyperzine- Marines have been "pushed back" to the Sulaco and are turtling hard, and admins are yelling at them to go back down, but they're scared of the XENO MENACE the the landing pads... but the researcher just mixed up a batch of COMBAT STIMS! AWESOME! Superhuman marines can go down and drive the XENO SCUM off the pad for the USCM! One of 2 things will happen.
1. 20+ Superhuman marines with stun immunity and superspeed will drive off the like 6 living aliens.
2. The researcher fucked up and put ONE more unit of either into the stims, pod lands filled with 20+ vomiting and dying marines, aliens retreat in horror, admins mock rines in OOC, jobban researcher.
My PERSONAL opinion on these 2 drugs are that they're not worth the risks/side effects. Both are very long-lasting chems, so even 1u is there forever, AND trying to mix them with chems that cancel their effects will require a lot more to be added, due to difference in depletion rates. Despite that, you can make stims that are... if not safe, at least unlikely to kill you. Other users have posted recipies, and you can track them down, but BE MINDFUL THAT THE HYPERZINE OD LIMIT HAS CHANGED RELATIVELY RECENTLY. IF YOU PUT MORE THAN 2u, THE USER WILL NEED MEDEVAC. IF YOU PUT MORE THAN 3, HE WILL DIE.
Synaptizine will do an ABSURD amount of toxin damage slowly over its lifetime(100 cycles/unit, .5 toxin damage/cycle), though it is survivable if you keep dosing on anti-tox for the next few minutes. Additionally, 20u of antitox will last long enough to counter 1u of synap. Most stims have ~1u synp, then the rest of the pill stuffed with 30u antitox in the hope of mitigating the damage. You fucked up and somehow made a 30u SYNAPT pill instead of an antitox pill? Dialysis, now. Either that or take a 20u antitox pill every 1 and a third minutes... for the next 40 minutes. Yeah. Don't fuck up.
Hyperzine has a 1% chance of doing 1 heart damage per cycle. That's not bad, but is annoying. HOWEVER, overdose limit is 2u. If you overdose, it does a GUARANTEED 1 heart damage/cycle. And it's long lasting as well (~10 times as long as standard drug), soo... yeah. Unless you like 20-30 heart damage, be careful. Oh, and mixing perdiox in won't fix it due to the difference in depletion rates, unless you're putting in like 30u of perdiox/pill, which is a LEETLE wasteful, even if you're mass-producing perdiox. TO REPEAT AGAIN, MANY OLDER RECIPES USE MORE THAN 2u. THIS WILL KILL THE MARINE.
Hypothetical "safe" stim- 1u Synaptizine, 20u antitox, 2u hyperzine, 20u tricord, 17u bicard. This is not optimal, but it SHOULDN'T kill anyone (WARNING MADE USING MATH, AND UNTESTED. Will test ASAP.) Synaptizine side effect is canceled by the antitox, and the hyperzine side effect is small enough to ignore, and you have a decent healing effect through the duration. Do not take a second till the HEALING effect wears off, oor you'll go blind, take brain damage, additional toxic damage, AND guaranteed heart damage, for death.
May update more, but this is enough for now.
Mentor-
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
So you just got done getting patched up on the Sulaco. Other Marines need attention, do you stop to thank the docs and tell them "if you need anything let me know" or do you just get the he out and let them do their job?
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Depends on the situation and, more importantly, where you're standing. Hearing a thank you can really brighten up a stressful round provided there aren't ten dying people in medbay and you don't stand in a crowded area to say it. If you're a medic, you might want to check in to see if the docs need something.RussianRifleman wrote:So you just got done getting patched up on the Sulaco. Other Marines need attention, do you stop to thank the docs and tell them "if you need anything let me know" or do you just get the he out and let them do their job?
Aka Dennis Hunt the (usually) overworked medic/doctor.
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Re: How to not piss off a Doctor (and how to be one)
Just go, unless you're going to help stabilize wounded. Saying thank you is appreciated, but we don't really need anything that can be found outside of medbay, and usually I have to take the next patient immediately.
Mentor-
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u