All Hat Items count as Helmets

killinkyle · Post by **killinkyle** » 02 Sep 2016, 21:59

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): All Hat-like items that you can spawn with (Bandana, Headband, Cap, Headset) block 1 hugger before breaking.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): More options for marines to wear things. Very minimal effect on gameplay, if any.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): All items you can pick up as your starter gear (You know, bandanas and caps and such) can block 1 hugger, just like a normal marine helmet. They do not provide armor, but do provide protection against huggers.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it): ... Effort.

SPACEpotato1 · Post by **SPACEpotato1** » 02 Sep 2016, 22:02

-1/Neutral

Marines should be wearing helmets. They're designed to protect the head. A bandana, however. Is not.

I fail to see how a headset is going to stop a facehugger.

killinkyle · Post by **killinkyle** » 02 Sep 2016, 22:06

Point isn't for lore, it's for fun. I personally fail to see how helmet is going to protect your FACE.

SPACEpotato1 · Post by **SPACEpotato1** » 02 Sep 2016, 22:09

killinkyle wrote:Point isn't for lore, it's for fun. I personally fail to see how helmet is going to protect your FACE.

Fun for the marines. Annoying for the aliens.

The only reason the helmet protects the face is because SOMETHING is needed that can stop hugger-insta-kill

All I have to do is walk in with a headset+bandana combo and suddenly I can take 2 facehugger hits?

I mean let's just make sunglasses block 3 facehugger attacks because muh muhreen customs.

That, and the dev team will have to code in "broken headsets", "Broken berets" "broken bandanas"

And I can already imagine the shit storm that will arise from a broken headset.

Renomaki · Post by **Renomaki** » 02 Sep 2016, 22:29

It is assumed that the design of the helmet makes it too difficult for the hugger to attach properly, and in doing so merely crushes the helmet and falls off with it still in her grasp.

While I wouldn't mind more defenses against huggers, you have to consider logic when making a suggestion, and in this case, making it so ANY hat item can block a hugger is a tad excessive.

Imagine the salt from xenos when something as minor as a bandanna magically prevents a hugger from attaching properly. I know I'd be annoyed.

SecretStamos (Joshuu) · Post by **SecretStamos (Joshuu)** » 03 Sep 2016, 00:50

Renomaki wrote:It is assumed that the design of the helmet makes it too difficult for the hugger to attach properly, and in doing so merely crushes the helmet and falls off with it still in her grasp.

As much as I'd like to agree with you, it doesn't. In lore, the facehuggers have had no problem facehugging anything with a helmet. Even most closed helmets don't protect against it, only the Yautja mask and the Apesuit mask.

We can't really change it unless we majorly buff marines in some area to compensate for everyone losing hugger protection.

Adding hugger protection to the current hats would be a nightmare. They'd basically be stored as "backup" helmets in large quantities.

killinkyle · Post by **killinkyle** » 03 Sep 2016, 01:14

SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote: As much as I'd like to agree with you, it doesn't. In lore, the facehuggers have had no problem facehugging anything with a helmet. Even most closed helmets don't protect against it, only the Yautja mask and the Apesuit mask.

We can't really change it unless we majorly buff marines in some area to compensate for everyone losing hugger protection.

Adding hugger protection to the current hats would be a nightmare. They'd basically be stored as "backup" helmets in large quantities.

Why not make them count as "Helmet" Sized? That way, you cant stash them in your backpack.

Boltersam · Post by **Boltersam** » 03 Sep 2016, 09:28

killinkyle wrote: Why not make them count as "Helmet" Sized? That way, you cant stash them in your backpack.

Have fun with bullets to the back of the head, then. Helmets protect against bullets. Hats don't.

killinkyle · Post by **killinkyle** » 03 Sep 2016, 09:57

I have faith that my fellow marines will not shoot me in the back of the head.

It's misguided faith, but faith none the less.

Renomaki · Post by **Renomaki** » 03 Sep 2016, 14:51

killinkyle wrote:I have faith that my fellow marines will not shoot me in the back of the head.

It's misguided faith, but faith none the less.

It is one thing to hope that marines won't shoot you.. But it is another to know when to keep out of a marine's way.

A lot of friendly fire isn't so much because marines get careless with their aim as it is marines not paying attention to where they are going, running into bullets midflight while being distracted by xenos.

Combat awareness is key to avoiding friendly fire.

monkeysfist101 · Post by **monkeysfist101** » 03 Sep 2016, 18:19

We've got an update coming in the not too distant future that will add incentive to non-helmet headgear.

Renomaki · Post by **Renomaki** » 03 Sep 2016, 22:09

monkeysfist101 wrote:We've got an update coming in the not too distant future that will add incentive to non-helmet headgear.

SPOIL IT, SPOIL IT, SPOIL IT.

... Give us a few hints...

monkeysfist101 · Post by **monkeysfist101** » 04 Sep 2016, 15:00

Okay. They still won't be able to stop huggers, but they won't break.

Durper · Post by **Durper** » 05 Sep 2016, 10:09

Just wait for the no hugger combat update. that's what I assume is gonna happen.

Moonloon · Post by **Moonloon** » 05 Sep 2016, 12:52

This is one of the cases where I think realism trumps fun. I can accept helmets blocking huggers for balance, but caps? Berets?

If you want to avoid getting faceraped, wear the proper protective gear.

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Post by **forwardslashN** » 08 Sep 2016, 17:54

We may change how the headgear functions in relation to huggers later, but right now there is no reason to change the dynamic.

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