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Man or machine?

Post by Breen » 14 Sep 2016, 00:44

What is the way to go when it comes to robotic limbs? Flesh or metal? What are the ups and downs for each? What do you prefer?

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Post by Desolane900 » 14 Sep 2016, 00:59

Robot limbs are EMP vulnerable and basically any damage at all causes a malfunction and inability to hold things. Atleast with meat arms you can have RNGeesus make your bones take damage. 0/10
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Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 14 Sep 2016, 01:01

well really mechanically limbs are mostly negative (and if you have mechanically organs, good luck with that....), you do have the side benefit of if you're an engi you can patch yourself up but the negatives really outweigh the positives like an emp goes off, you probably going to die with how damage works in the server. They are meant to be a hindrance like many of the other disabilities in the character creator, that are mostly meant to provide some rp value, a general point I see is at what point are you more machine than man (of course, its sort of a dumb rp thing but still rp, I guess)

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Post by Sarah_U. » 14 Sep 2016, 01:06

You can repair robotic limbs on the fly when they're damaged, bothering the already too busy engi instead of your squad medic \o7
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Post by Fritigern » 14 Sep 2016, 09:30

As others have said, in terms of pure mechanics they are basically a hindrance to your overall survival. That being said, I still rock a robot leg strictly because I think it's cool. It was mildly useful a few times in the past, back when leg targeting was all the rage with ravagers who took advantage of the low boot armour. There were quite a few times that the robotic leg saved me from getting perma-fucked by broken bones from hit and run attacks but that's not really the alien meta these days. If you plan on playing an engineer, then you can be slightly more self reliant in that you can treat a lot of your own minor damage, but if you're ever left with serious damage that you can't treat yourself, then really no one around you will likely be able to help either.

Personally I think the whole system is criminally underdeveloped. There is a lot that could go into the system but it's basically ignored, which is very disappointing.

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Post by Mech__Warrior » 15 Sep 2016, 00:35

TheSpoonyCroy wrote:well really mechanically limbs are mostly negative (and if you have mechanically organs, good luck with that....), you do have the side benefit of if you're an engi you can patch yourself up but the negatives really outweigh the positives like an emp goes off, you probably going to die with how damage works in the server. They are meant to be a hindrance like many of the other disabilities in the character creator, that are mostly meant to provide some rp value, a general point I see is at what point are you more machine than man (of course, its sort of a dumb rp thing but still rp, I guess)
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As for my opinion, I'm indifferent. As a doctor, it saves me some time fixing marines up, but when they are constantly in pain crit and screaming at me to do something, I can't really do anything (Due to me wanting to RP this shit out and not powergame everything). I honestly don't know how somebody could be in pain crit from a mechanical limb being damaged, but maybe something shorts out to let the user know they are taking damage.

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 15 Sep 2016, 17:07

Mech__Warrior wrote: I honestly don't know how somebody could be in pain crit from a mechanical limb being damaged, but maybe something shorts out to let the user know they are taking damage.
I would presume the robotic limbs would be built with pain receptors which would link up to the survivng nerve endings from where your limbs were. (well that's my ic justification anyway.)
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Re: Man or machine?

Post by Biolock » 15 Sep 2016, 18:36

Robo limbs are better in the sense that they're generally much easier to fix, but bad in the sense that there will likely be very few people available to help you, and no amount of medication/ time will allow them to heal on their own.
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Post by completelynewguy » 15 Sep 2016, 18:39

If you're an engineer or someone with easy access to a welder and eyepro, yes. If not, don't.

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Post by Casany » 15 Sep 2016, 18:45

Mechanical limbs don't bleed, nore do their bones break. Yes it requires a welder or cables but I think they are equal to regular limbs, and I'm inclined to say they are better
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Post by SPACEpotato1 » 16 Sep 2016, 03:12

Casany wrote:Mechanical limbs don't bleed, nore do their bones break. Yes it requires a welder or cables but I think they are equal to regular limbs, and I'm inclined to say they are better
I always laugh when I explode some marine's robotic arm, or when they get up to try and shoot me when I am alone (usually I am on the ground, dying on weeds) and then suddenly they drop their gun and I get up.

Seriously, they don't bleed, they fry and drop shit, they don't break, they EXPLODE and suddenly you need a WHOLE new arm.
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Re: Man or machine?

Post by Jay Burns » 16 Sep 2016, 05:59

i like having my left arm and right leg bionic, because they take less damage, can be repaired on the fly and are harder to decap.

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Post by SPACEpotato1 » 16 Sep 2016, 08:07

Jay Burns wrote:i like having my left arm and right leg bionic, because they take less damage, can be repaired on the fly and are harder to decap.
Robotic limbs are not decapped, they explode when they take too much damage. When you lose a robotic arm, you're pretty much fucked - Hell, it doesn't even need to be decapped to kill you, if it malfunctions and you don't have gyro...Well, RIP.
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Re: Man or machine?

Post by Casany » 16 Sep 2016, 08:34

I always take a gyro and keep my riot shield in my bionic arm, and I've never had my arm explode ONCE
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Re: Man or machine?

Post by SPACEpotato1 » 16 Sep 2016, 10:46

Maybe it's because you use the 'Imarambo' riotshield/gyro combo :\
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Re: Man or machine?

Post by TopHatPenguin » 17 Sep 2016, 15:46

I've used Robolimbs for around two years now on CM, roughly give or take and these are some of my observations while having robolimbs.

It use to be that once you found cable coil and a welder you were set for life and would be able to keep fighting for an extremely long time, however with the introduction of needing welding goggles/helmet to fix your own robotics your life as a marine with robotics becomes a tad tricky unless you ask an engineer to vend you some goggles from which you'll be set for life as wire is easily obtained from the nexus and engineering, getting a welder is fairly easy as well as there are a whole bunch of toolboxes in nexus.If you are quick as well you can repair yourself incredibly fast which also leads to the fact you don't need to rely on a medic most of the time or an engineer when you have got your 'fixing kit' and fuel station found.

Having damage to robotics can be annoying as you are more likely to drop weapons but on the upside you won't bleed out from it so, you can delay your treatment of limbs for a good while as they are still combat operational and as such keep you in the fight.Another bonus would be they rarely actually can get slashed off unless you are just about to die, for instance having a limb come off as a 'fleshy person' is fairly easy given enough damage where as the damage to a robotic limb from what I've seen and tried myself Robotic limbs just don't come off unless a ridiculous amount of damage is applied to that one area.

The problem with robotic limbs currently is that they are way too easy to fix by yourself when you know what you're doing imo.


Anywho I changed to being a fleshy person because I find it hilarious and great Rp for me if I lose a limb and as such having felshy limbs caters to that.

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Re: Man or machine?

Post by GreyHound501 » 12 Oct 2016, 05:10

I have played with robotic limbs for quite sometime now and they were pretty great. Didn't have many problems until I got heavily damaged but the other day I decided to change back to a full human. First round I played as a human five minutes after we landed got my hand shot off by a sniper then my entire arm cut off by a doctor having to have a robot arm anyway. 10/10 would be fleshy human again
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Post by Eenkogneeto » 12 Oct 2016, 07:03

I believe in pure fleshy bits but i considered making a robot arm i got one round 'canon' i just couldn't remember what arm it was and eventually gave up.
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