Lar'nix'va (Larvae Stomper)

[Youbar]

Byond ID: Youbar

Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here): Wilhelm Eberhardt

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name):

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor? Yes

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):
Lar'nix'va is a blooded Yautja, born to an extensive clan inhabiting Yautja Prime. The most curious aspect to him is his name; upon being removed from the womb, he was drawn to a trophy jar containing a large pile of skinned larvae. His curiousity was quickly replaced by a feeling of irritation, and he attempted to pry open the container. Only minutes old, however, he had little knowledge of how to do so, and instead, furiously pounded on the glass. Fortnately, his papa and mama managed to drag him away before he could manage to get to those poor leathery skins, and his name was created: Lar’nix’va.
His parents set out to appease his hatred for larvae from that day on. Initially, they showed him trophies of queens they had killed alongside the small box of dead larvae they brought back with them from their hunts, but he hardly glanced at the giant head soon to be mounted on the wall. His attention was entirely focused on those boxes of dead snakes that’d be given to him, and he immediately dissected them. He tore off their heads, sliced them open to reveal their inner organs, tinkered with their acid, and gouged out their eyes. A whole month’s worth of hunted larvae would be torn apart within hours.
His obsession came such to the point that his regular fashion contained bracelets, necklaces, and all sorts of jewellery using the leathery hide of those creatures. His most prized possession was an amulet, which at its center, was filled with thousands of larvae eyes trapped witin a glass sphere.
As soon as he was able, Lar'nix'va set out to hunt larvae himself. He was faced with an immediate challenge: the Yautja Code of Honour stated that the prey must be “capable of defending itself.” Larvae were typically only killed when controlling the population of Xenomorphs for the next group of unblooded Yautja to prove their worth. The amount of self-control he had to exercise to prevent himself pursuing a slithering serpent was unfathomable. After he’d easily cleared an infestation as part of his first unblooded hunt, he sliced off the Queen’s legs in a swift action before running after the host of little worms in the temple room. A fellow unblooded managed to get him back on track to claim his “trophy” to prove his blooded status, but it is yet to see how this might impede his progress in future infestation clearances…

How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?
A lot of predators I find follow a similar formula. They're always the typical "claim trophies", or "prove blooded status", but I feel that this predator will put an entirely unique spin on things. I recognise the fact that Yautja are required to hunt prey that are capable of defending themselves, and in that regard, Lar'nix'va cannot attack larvae. However, I'm using them as a driving force that'll place him in very risky and sucidial situations. Based on his upbringing, I'm expecting that when he so much as sees a larva, he'll recklessly pursue it, traversing an entire hive in an attempt to capture it. I'm aware that at some point, he'll fulfill this objective, but I have a failsafe planned with three key ideas in mind:
a. In recognition of his "disability", a silent command was given to his ship, and in turn, his helmet's UI, to disable movement/acid signatures for sufficiently small creatures, such as larvae.
b. Lar'nix'va is as dumb as a brick. He loves his larvae, but he also loves his glorious "ceromonies" after locating a bunch of them. When he eventually stumbles upon a lone larva, I'm expecting that he'll carry out a small little triump, giving it plenty of time to escape while he makes a long-winded speech, and a little victory dance, getting him nicely distracted.
c. Larvae are small, so if they're not moving (e.g SSD) he won't touch them, because his eyes won't pick up any movement, and they'll just be hiding among the weeds (as they probably would in real life when resting and maturing).

Why should we whitelist you?
I'm going to bring a unique character to the table, one on the level of stupidity never seen before, but also one that's unique and interesting. I am very capable of roleplaying, and have proved myself competent at any position assigned to me on the Sulaco, primarily commander and executive officer. For a bit of proof, I've been whitelisted as Head of Staff on Aurora Station, as well as been allowed access to two different species (IPC and Dionaea) in recognition of this. The requirements for the former are a lot more stricter than the requirements for the latter. I don't think you can possibly go wrong with allowing me onto the Yautja-approved players list.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)? I was job banned from commander for a week. It expired two days ago.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why? All of them None.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor? Yes

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

Not gonna lie. This has got to be the only application to make me grin like a dumb ass in a while. I'm going to give you my a-okay, for a few reasons.

1. You're unique. REALLY unique, it should add some nice interesting interaction too see from you, though granted with your backstory, you'll probably have someone keeping an eye on you so you don't go running into a hive after a larva if the helmet didn't get that UI upgrade.
2. Your suggested playstyle intruiges me. With this suggested style, you'll likely spend far more time looking for a larva outside the hive *Coughnotlikelycough* than hunting, which will let the salt not be generated so badly, and just give something entertaining for players to see and be a part of.

[Boltersam]

I hate to be that guy, but I'll just agree with everything Short said until I have time to respond to this.

Though, marines watching a larva run by, chased by a Predator, chased by Aliens, chased by more Predators, will be amusing. Sentries will mess it up, though.

[forwardslashN]

-1
While it's an interesting concept, I'll give you that, but I don't really see this working out in practice. As you say, this level of stupidity has never been seen before, and I think it should stay that way.

[LordeKilly]

Honestly, this is probably my ideal type of application. Youbar is awesome player, have had some great times in game and out of game. I truly hope you follow your story in-game, because I'd feel it would be a blast to play with you. This is a good application, anyone who wants a +1 for me should probably be snowflakey like this.

+1 youbar, keep up the good work.

[Feweh]

While the story and playstyle is unique.... it's not really Predator related?
Doesn't really follow what Predators aim to be on the server.

Not sure how this would work.

[Youbar]

Doesn't really follow what Predators aim to be on the server.

Is it necessary that all predators obey the same, strict guidelines of hunting for trophies when embarking on a mission? Yautja culture may certainly be focused around the idea of hunting, but that doesn't mean outliers, such as Lar'nix'va who is simply unable to understand the culture he was brought up in, cannot exist.

Not sure how this would work.

I've detailed three key points that Lar'nix'va will follow to ensure that he doesn't break the Yautja Code of Honour by killing a larva. The most important thing to understand about larvae is that they usually sit in the center of the hive, out of harms way, and will thus drive Lar'nix'va to fulfill the conditions of his mission in pursuit of his favourite type of serpent. You'd sooner be fighting the queen herself, than ever getting anywhere near the worms.
Another thing you might want to point out is that, eventually, a time will come where Lar'nix'va does eliminate a hive, with or without marine help. This means that I cannot hide behind the very real barrier that other xenomorphs and their hive create. That's not a bad thing, though; I'll improvise, and figure out a way to ensure that the larvae I locate are given a chance to run away or evolve.
Lar'nix'va will be a very strange predator, but there's nothing wrong with challenging the boundaries that are already in place as to how Yautja should act. Ultimately, little will change other than the fact that he will recklessly pursue the smallest possible prey for the most arbitrary of reasons, and will kill any larger trophies who get in his way while he does so, which will lead him to clearing out the alien hive as he should.

[Casany]

I personally like the idea. In pred apps it's very hard to stand out with your play style because of how the honor code works and whatnot. Predators are supposed to be unique, and I really think this one is. Giving my +1 here, but it's mainly up to head staff and pred players

[forwardslashN]

I've detailed three key points that Lar'nix'va will follow to ensure that he doesn't break the Yautja Code of Honour by killing a larva. The most important thing to understand about larvae is that they usually sit in the center of the hive, out of harms way, and will thus drive Lar'nix'va to fulfill the conditions of his mission in pursuit of his favourite type of serpent. You'd sooner be fighting the queen herself, than ever getting anywhere near the worms.
Another thing you might want to point out is that, eventually, a time will come where Lar'nix'va does eliminate a hive, with or without marine help. This means that I cannot hide behind the very real barrier that other xenomorphs and their hive create. That's not a bad thing, though; I'll improvise, and figure out a way to ensure that the larvae I locate are given a chance to run away or evolve.
Lar'nix'va will be a very strange predator, but there's nothing wrong with challenging the boundaries that are already in place as to how Yautja should act. Ultimately, little will change other than the fact that he will recklessly pursue the smallest possible prey for the most arbitrary of reasons, and will kill any larger trophies who get in his way while he does so, which will lead him to clearing out the alien hive as he should.

I think your have a great misconception about what playing a predator is about, as well as the lore. I've highlighted the parts I'm responding to.
1. The honor code is there to control what you can and can't do. Hunting larvae is not honorable, nor is it acceptable behavior within the server itself. If your entire character gimmick revolves around hunting larvae, and you will eventually end up killing one accidentally or on purpose, and then get removed from the whitelist for violating the code. You can't kill larvae. You want to kill larvae. Your entire character concept doesn't make any sense within the guidelines that are set out.
2. You are not challenging boundaries. There is absolutely nothing that actually makes your character a Yautja outside of you saying that that's what he is. You could have made any other alien, with the same backstory, and have gotten the same result. A Yuatja is defined by their adherence to the code, and their personal quirks. They are not defined by a single gimmick that drives the rest of their behavior. We have a lot of snowflake predators running around, that's really the cut of the jib as far as this whitelist goes, but there is such a thing as actually understanding the role you are playing. I don't see that with your application.
3. Playing a predator is not about clearing out xenomorph hives. Your character is completely centered around hunting xenomorphs, specifically larvae, which means that is who you will come into contact with the most. There is already a lot of salt on the server for when predators hunt only one side, be it marines or xenomorphs, and don't act like actual hunters. Or, let's take the example of you busting in to the larvae room, getting killed, then detonating to take out all the SSD xeno larvae that are just sitting around. You've cleared the hive and completely decimated the xenomorphs, now the round is over as one side is completely crippled.

[slc97]

So I'll be honest, I don't know much about press and I don't play press, however I'm going to give my opinion here anyway.

This entire idea just seems downright silly. It feels like instead of making an honor bound pred who is defined by the code and then a few personal aspects, you're trying to make the Bill Carson of preds who just has one defining trait that drives the character instead of the character driving the traits.

I gotta give my -1 here. Preds are there to make rounds more I retesting, not silly.

[coroneljones]

Going to -1
Was going to stay neutral leaning to -1 but noize pointed out some pretty good facts, while you made an interesting story that gave me a chuckle, it doesnt sound like a predator at all

[Boltersam]

Okay, I've read over it, and it's unique, it's funny,

But it's not a Predator. Unfortunately, I'll have to give you a -1. You did well in the concept and writing of your character, but it simply doesn't fit into the mold of a Predator.

[Youbar]

Unfortunately, I'll have to give you a -1.

Going to -1

I gotta give my -1 here.

Well, uh, I guess I'll save Feweh some time here.

[ShortTemperedLeprechaun]

Relax youbar. You need two or three heads to give approval, the rest of us just weigh in. It's down to TR, Rah, and apop.

[Feweh]

Relax youbar. You need two or three heads to give approval, the rest of us just weigh in. It's down to TR, Rah, and apop.

Actually I'm the only one who deals with Predator apps and pushes them to Final review for the other heads.

However it's a different concept so I'm still interesting in seeing others feedback.
Unless you want to deny this now instead of having it sit around for the next couple of weeks so you can start the new app timer?

[Youbar]

I planned on having this accepted quickly, but I'll be happy to let it sit around. As it stands, the feedback has shifted from mostly positive to a far more negative tone, so I'll send you a PM if I decide to pull the plug early from additional -1s in the future.

[Youbar]

1. The honor code is there to control what you can and can't do. Hunting larvae is not honorable, nor is it acceptable behavior within the server itself. If your entire character gimmick revolves around hunting larvae, and you will eventually end up killing one accidentally or on purpose, and then get removed from the whitelist for violating the code. You can't kill larvae. You want to kill larvae. Your entire character concept doesn't make any sense within the guidelines that are set out.

I'm aware of this fact. I thought I made it abundantly clear that Lar'nix'va does have a condition that forces him to pursue larvae, but you're implying here that I'll break the Predator Code of Honour. I've repeatedly given guidelines as to how Lar'nix'va will ultimately fail to actually kill any. You can't make the point that I'll kill prey that cannot fight back, therefore breaking the Code of Honour, and then disregard completely the huge focus I've made on minimising that as an issue for this character. One day, Lar'nix'va might break the Code of Honour, but that'll never happen on this server. I feel that, in fact, it shows a much more in-depth understanding of Yautja in that I can recognise that the character's a ticking time bomb, and will eventually dishonour himself in his larvae hunting antics in another timeline. It's worth mentioning 2% of Yautja are [bad bloods, and it's bound to happen that one day, a predator that previously hunted on LV-624 will become one of them.

2.You are not challenging boundaries. There is absolutely nothing that actually makes your character a Yautja outside of you saying that that's what he is. You could have made any other alien, with the same backstory, and have gotten the same result. A Yuatja is defined by their adherence to the code, and their personal quirks. They are not defined by a single gimmick that drives the rest of their behavior. We have a lot of snowflake predators running around, that's really the cut of the jib as far as this whitelist goes, but there is such a thing as actually understanding the role you are playing. I don't see that with your application.

To take the same logic, there is nothing to indicate that a human is a human outside of saying that they are. There is no universal stereotype of what somebody should be, and that too, would be the case for Yautja. You've placed a huge emphasis on the fact that their lives should revolve around the Code of Honour, and the hunt, when it would be fair to say that for some, those might simply be a passive idea they must keep in their mind. Nothing says that they are completely incapable of breaking the Code of Honour, other than the looming threat of punishment if they do so. Lar'nix'va is able to recognise that, but he's also stupid enough to be able to break them.

3. Playing a predator is not about clearing out xenomorph hives. Your character is completely centered around hunting xenomorphs, specifically larvae, which means that is who you will come into contact with the most. There is already a lot of salt on the server for when predators hunt only one side, be it marines or xenomorphs, and don't act like actual hunters. Or, let's take the example of you busting in to the larvae room, getting killed, then detonating to take out all the SSD xeno larvae that are just sitting around. You've cleared the hive and completely decimated the xenomorphs, now the round is over as one side is completely crippled.[/quote]

Yautja culture is, in fact, very focused around clearing out hives. That's how they get elevated to the position of Clan Leader. That's how I wrote this application, and didn't manipulate it to take into account gameplay characterisations. Xenomorphs are the ultimate prey, and I don't think Lar'nix'va should be required to go out of his way to attack marines when they're hardly capable of defending themselves in comparison to a Xenomorph, and their trophies are virtually worthless. When I'm playing Lar'nix'va, he won't make things too unbalanced, but it has to be recognised that this application was written from a lore point of view.
And, again, you completely ignore guidelines I've mentioned above for Lar'nix'va. He cannot see small creatures, such as larvae, because his HUD was made incapable of doing so. He's also blind to small unmoving creatures, making the likelihood that he'll ever discover where the SSD larvae room is unlikely.

To summarise: Lar'nix'va is bound to break the Code of Honour one day, and be deemed a part of the 2% bad bloods, but it won't happen on this server.

[forwardslashN]

and then disregard completely the huge focus I've made on minimising that as an issue for this character.

Your entire character is based around that one gimmick. "My character is based around this thing, but wait! He'll act completely different when it comes down it! Seriously!" What? By your own application, your character can't track larvae. Yet:

He loves his larvae, but he also loves his glorious "ceromonies" after locating a bunch of them. When he eventually stumbles upon a lone larva

How would he even stumble upon them if he can't see them? Anyway...

You've placed a huge emphasis on the fact that their lives should revolve around the Code of Honour

That is the entire point of playing a predator on this server. I'm not placing a huge emphasis on it for no reason; there is a Code of Honor section on the forums you have to follow. Yautja lore has a Code of Honor that they have to follow. Bad bloods are what they are because they reject the Code. Yautja culture is based around the Hunt, and the Code is a huge part of that.

Lar'nix'va is able to recognise that, but he's also stupid enough to be able to break them

Sigh...

Yautja culture is, in fact, very focused around clearing out hives. That's how they get elevated to the position of Clan Leader.

It's not. Yautja culture is based around the Hunt, not clearing out hives. If you actually read the lore, predators fly around with their spaceships from planet to planet hunting different creatures, including xenomorphs and humans. Hive cleansings are more like tests of skill and valor, something that only a few actually undertake and come back alive from. Otherwise everyone would be a clan leader or dead.

this application was written from a lore point of view.

I disagree. I also think you are not ready to be whitelisted.

[Youbar]

Your entire character is based around that one gimmick. "My character is based around this thing, but wait! He'll act completely different when it comes down it! Seriously!" What? By your own application, your character can't track larvae. Yet: How would he even stumble upon them if he can't see them? Anyway...

He can see them, but only if they're moving, and if they're not hidden behind a resin wall. His HUD doesn't indicate that there is a larvae in the area by observing for signatures through the walls and so on, but that doesn't make it impossible for him to locate them through eyesight alone. I don't see what the issue is - you're saying that him pursuing larvae is a bad thing, but then stating that it's ridiculous that his Clan Leader would make an attempts to hinder his ability to locate them. Do you want him to break the Code of Honour outright, or do you want him to avoid it through outside help, and delay it hapepning?

That is the entire point of playing a predator on this server. I'm not placing a huge emphasis on it for no reason; there is a Code of Honor section on the forums you have to follow. Yautja lore has a Code of Honor that they have to follow. Bad bloods are what they are because they reject the Code. Yautja culture is based around the Hunt, and the Code is a huge part of that.

You keep making this statement that I won't follow the Code of Honour. Lar'nix'va will become a Bad Blood eventually, but it won't happen on this server. There is nothing in the predator application requirements that dictate that all Yautja must completely obey the Code of Honour, without a hint of them ever being outcasted in the future.

It's not. Yautja culture is based around the Hunt, not clearing out hives. If you actually read the lore, predators fly around with their spaceships from planet to planet hunting different creatures, including xenomorphs and humans. Hive cleansings are more like tests of skill and valor, something that only a few actually undertake and come back alive from. Otherwise everyone would be a clan leader or dead.

Yes, Yautja culture is focused around gathering the trophies of the "ultimate prey", or "serpents", and to become a Blooded Yautja, they have to undertake a task in which they clear out a pyramid. Those generally contain queens which produce Xenomorphs for the Unblooded to hunt. Clearing out hives is a very real part of the hunt (such as when the Yautja when into the Antartican Pyramid in Alien vs Predator), and a huge emphasis for their culture, because hives contain trophies for Unblooded to prove their status as a Blooded. A single Xenomorph, unless incredibly high ranking, doesn't prove much of a challenge, hence why they attack hives.

I disagree. I also think you are not ready to be whitelisted.

Then perhaps we should end it here, and let other people be the judges of that.

[TR-BlackDragon]

Sorry youbar but im going to have to give you a minus 1 from me, So unless apop or rhalzel want to give their feedback i think this is going to be denied.

[Youbar]

Sorry youbar but im going to have to give you a minus 1 from me, So unless apop or rhalzel want to give their feedback i think this is going to be denied.

Okay. Please close it then. I'll send a message to Feweh, too.