Idea to avoid having no queen at start

[kastion]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary): Make sure there is a player willing to be queen at the start of every round without admin assistance. Players tend to argue and not pick queen by forcing someone to take queen or setting up a player that is willing to be queen with preference it can be avoided entirely.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole): Admins wont have to mess with setting up a queen if no one picks it. The xenos wont be set back 20 or 30 minutes at round start cause there is no queen.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc): Make it to where no one can evolve except drone until there is a queen. With the way jelly works now it shouldnt put the xenos behind much.
Alternative idea make queen a job pref like marines have and give 1 player preference with queen set to yes so there is always someone willing to be queen. It will save alot of frustration, time, and help the xenos get off to better starts especially at offpeak times where there are not as many xenos at the start.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):

[Eenkogneeto]

Actually a fairly good idea, I don't imagine it would be TOO hard to code, Though it brings up the problem of 'What if nobody will play queen' do you just return everything to the lobby until someone says 'fine fuck it ill go queen' ?

[kastion]

I figure the pressure of no one being able to play at all will crack someone into taking queen. Usually people just evolve to what they want and they are like "Oh well too late there are other larva that can do it" to justify them not picking queen.

[ParadoxSpace]

We need to go back to the prealpha days where all roundstart xenos are drones.

[Renomaki]

You know, it is kinda sad how most xeno players argue over who WON'T be queen, and will do everything in their power to avoid the responsibility of leading the hive...

.. And then later bitch about how shitty their queen was, or even attempt to boss it around despite being a young runner.

Look, aliens... You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to be a crusher, you are going to have to accept the fact that you are putting yourself up for slavery once a queen grows, and WILL have to listen to her, no matter how stupid she might be. If you don't agree with their leadership and think your tactics are better, why don't you aim to be queen yourself?

[Butterrobber202]

You know, it is kinda sad how most xeno players argue over who WON'T be queen, and will do everything in their power to avoid the responsibility of leading the hive...

.. And then later bitch about how shitty their queen was, or even attempt to boss it around despite being a young runner.

Look, aliens... You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to be a crusher, you are going to have to accept the fact that you are putting yourself up for slavery once a queen grows, and WILL have to listen to her, no matter how stupid she might be. If you don't agree with their leadership and think your tactics are better, why don't you aim to be queen yourself?

This. THIS RIGHT HERE. IS THE SOURCE OF ALL ALIEMS PROBLEMS

[Snypehunter007]

If xenos aren't willing to choose queen, that is on them.

-1 from me

[BalancedGeneral]

You know, it is kinda sad how most xeno players argue over who WON'T be queen, and will do everything in their power to avoid the responsibility of leading the hive...

.. And then later bitch about how shitty their queen was, or even attempt to boss it around despite being a young runner.

Look, aliens... You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you want to be a crusher, you are going to have to accept the fact that you are putting yourself up for slavery once a queen grows, and WILL have to listen to her, no matter how stupid she might be. If you don't agree with their leadership and think your tactics are better, why don't you aim to be queen yourself?

Its more of a balance/population thing.
The majority of the server know how shit aliens are, and don't want to play them. Being the Queen means you are 'in charge' and aliens need more direction than marines who just 'wait for an excuse to rush the caves' and then win game. So when the aliens inevitably lose everyone blames the queen and not the two assholes who took up all the t3 slots(tier limits still being fucking dumb, a truly Apop only level idea) as boilers(totally worthless caste).

[Joe4444]

Its more of a balance/population thing.
The majority of the server know how shit aliens are, and don't want to play them. Being the Queen means you are 'in charge' and aliens need more direction than marines who just 'wait for an excuse to rush the caves' and then win game. So when the aliens inevitably lose everyone blames the queen and not the two assholes who took up all the t3 slots(tier limits still being fucking dumb, a truly Apop only level idea) as boilers(totally worthless caste).

and the caped crusader returns....last I checked,there's rarely only 2 T3 spots and I highly doubt both of them would be boilers,even if they did the boiler isn't that bad,it can stop attack and fucking insta kill marines
play the game more before you start talking shit about balance

[apophis775]

Something we COULD do, is add a "Xeno Queen" preference, and grab one of them to make a roundstart queen

[Snypehunter007]

Something we COULD do, is add a "Xeno Queen" preference, and grab one of them to make a roundstart queen

There is a suggestion for that, it's at the very back on page 17 I believe.

[SUPERMAN112]

Something we COULD do, is add a "Xeno Queen" preference, and grab one of them to make a roundstart queen

now that sounds cool!

[Lucius Jones]

a good idea would have it to be on the character creation screen. I would like a time-lock for a queen but no one ever thinks that's a good idea for some reason.

[SUPERMAN112]

I would like it to be on the character creation screen. I want a time-lock for a queen but no one ever things that's a good idea for some stupid reason.

if nobody is online that can be queen then RIP aliens, that's why

[Lucius Jones]

10 minutes of boredom is better than a 3 hour slog fest, eventually someone will be a alien queen

[KEY]

-1, It's better for someone who actually chooses to be Queen to be Queen rather then it be someone who just does it as a "game start".
It would produce bad Queens because of the rush to start evolution.

[Lucius Jones]

People choosing it at game start are the same as people who choose it in-game...

[Butterrobber202]

Supported. It makes sense lore wise as well, because at the start of the round all aliens are somehow larva that managed to capture and infect the colonists

[TastyCrabLegs]

it always made very little sense to me that an infestation that killed a whole colony has no queen yet multiple sisters.

Queen should be a job you can select in the preference after alien and just have one spawn in like a co would.

[Liran343]

Something we COULD do, is add a "Xeno Queen" preference, and grab one of them to make a roundstart queen

+1

[TheMaskedMan2]

Something we COULD do, is add a "Xeno Queen" preference, and grab one of them to make a roundstart queen

+1 to this. It makes perfect sense and doesn't really restrict things in any way I think, make an option for "Play as Queen." So players who want it and are good at it can be a roundstart Queen, if no one picks it, then I guess it just defaults to what it currently is, where you hope a Larva goes for it.

It also could let you job ban super purposely shitty Queens from being it again. (Not sure how necessary that would be but i'd imagine someone would be an ass.)

[adamkad2]

this was started quite a bit ago, but the idea is grand. having a roundstart queen would be real good shit, avoiding all the damn arguments. +1

[Lucius Jones]

+1 Plz, I've made multiple suggestions rating to the topic of what Apop has said, it just makes everything easier

[phil235]

Implemented