Predaliens from facehugging a Predator

[Bloxerbot]

Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):
When a Predator gets facehugged they will produce a Unqiue Predalien Larva that eventually evolves into a T1 fully grown Predalien.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):
The implementation of Predaliens would help with improving the immersion of the game. It would incentivise Xenomorph players to take the risk of capturing a Predator alive instead of simply mauling it to death as a horde. Having this mechanic in place would help shake up the meta of how Xenomorphs normally play against Predators. This would also incentivise fellow Predators to watch out for and protect their comrades from being impregnated. If in the event a Predalien is produced, Predator players would be hellbent on destroying the Abomination, as they see it as a mockery of their ancestry. Most of all, it would help make a Predator round even more fun and unique for players with this mechanic in place.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):
Simply managing to kill a Predator is quite difficult. However, to be able to successfully facehug and impregnate one while keeping it alive would be significantly harder if not near impossible. Therefore if a hive manages to work together to achieve this goal they should be rewarded with a powerful Predalien to bolster their ranks.

This Predalien can only evolve from its larva form into a T1 Xenomorph Abomination and can evolve no further so that it does not interfere with the evolution spaces of the hive. It should be played as a Predator that can move faster and can hit harder but sacrifices this power in exchange for the tools and weaponry a normal Predator would have at its disposal.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):
The existing larva sprite can be modified to covered in green blood and also given the distincitve mandibles of the Predator. The existing sprite of the Hunter Alien could be edited in addition to have dreadlocks and mandibles, as well as be a lighter shade of grey (much like the hivelords) to help distinguish it.

[NoahKirchner]

+1 if the captured predator then has to play as the predalien (or another predator whitelisted person)

[Bloxerbot]

+1 if the captured predator then has to play as the predalien (or another predator whitelisted person)

The only problem is that this might incentivise Predator players to get facehugged on purpose.

[lucashunter608]

aren't predaliens another race through? don't they work alone and hate xenos? anyway, yes +1

[Sarah_U.]

Play Alien: Extinction. It depicts extremely well the xenomorph reproduction and way of working. Predaliens come from fallen predators and generally lead lower-castes as they're much more brutal, territorial and stronguer... as well as cunning. Predaliens can quite literally get downed and feign death to recover fully and charge back up again, they're monstruously powerful and the fact AvP 3 (?) Predalien was nuked is somehow the best thing that could happen to it.

PS: +1

[Boltersam]

The only problem is that this might incentivise Predator players to get facehugged on purpose.

Since most Predators are both staff and are highly filtered through the white listing for people who aren't eejits, this probably won't be the case. It's an extreme breach of the honor code, too.

And I think I'd still prefer being a Predator over Predalien.

Also, though I do +1 this, it's pretty much already accepted as the Devs have said before that predaliens are just low on the list for development.

Personally, I think balancing the sides properly is most important, Predators are just a side faction.

If this is accepted, though, I want our masks to have better protection against being slashed off, they must be held on with rubber bands with how bad the RNG is.

[NoahKirchner]

:thumbup: Since most Predators are both staff and are highly filtered through the white listing for people who aren't eejits, this probably won't be the case. It's an extreme breach of the honor code, too.

And I think I'd still prefer being a Predator over Predalien.

Also, though I do +1 this, it's pretty much already accepted as the Devs have said before that predaliens are just low on the list for development.

Personally, I think balancing the sides properly is most important, Predators are just a side faction.

If this is accepted, though, I want our masks to have better protection against being slashed off, they must be held on with rubber bands with how bad the RNG is.

Well predaliens would want to kill the predators, and predators would want to kill the predalien, so they'd be occupied with each other, no?

[Jdobbin49]

My only problem here would be that if it's like AvP 2 then if there is a predalien in the match that aliens numbers would sky rocket saying as one predalien could make it so that 4 larva popped out of the one person. Despite that I would really like a predalien in the game and I'd say that issue could be fixed so that the predalien can only impregnate every so often or something like that.
Anyway +1!

[Sarah_U.]

Predalien did this using pregnant mothers, it can only grow 1 xeno per hosts otherwise as they'd be unable to provide enough nutrition.

[Jdobbin49]

Predalien did this using pregnant mothers, it can only grow 1 xeno per hosts otherwise as they'd be unable to provide enough nutrition.

Ah right thanks for clearing that up, in that case I see no problem with it of making the match incredibly unbalanced and think it would just benefit to the RP, but the thing to remember is all the work there would have to be to make it, Joshuu or monkey would have to make the new sprite and I don't even know what kind of coding would be required if it would function differently from a normal alien or pred.

[Boltersam]

Well predaliens would want to kill the predators, and predators would want to kill the predalien, so they'd be occupied with each other, no?

Correct. Well, you'd be correct in all cases except for A: there was only one Predator that round, and B: the other predator(s) may be dead.

If so, Predaliens would decimate the Marines.

[Boltersam]

Ah right thanks for clearing that up, in that case I see no problem with it of making the match incredibly unbalanced and think it would just benefit to the RP, but the thing to remember is all the work there would have to be to make it, Joshuu or monkey would have to make the new sprite and I don't even know what kind of coding would be required if it would function differently from a normal alien or pred.

Also, the Predalien in the movie was transforming into a Queen, which is why it had that ability. The Predalien in the 2010 game was a "Warrior" Predalien because there was already a Queen.

[Bloxerbot]

Also, the Predalien in the movie was transforming into a Queen, which is why it had that ability. The Predalien in the 2010 game was a "Warrior" Predalien because there was already a Queen.

Yeah, obviously if it was to be implemented in the game it would be based on the 2010 game version and not have the movie one with the ability to impregnate a host with 4 larva. Im pretty sure you could implement it by doing some tweaking to the Hunter.

Ultimatley its Opness is balanced out by the fact that a Predator would be incredibly difficult to impregnate, even in the late game i'm pretty sure they would just blow themselves up before you could get a chance.

[Snypehunter007]

Pretty sure this is a dupe and was denied.

[Bloxerbot]

I don't know why you would want to deny it. At the very least reskinning the larva sprite to have green blood and mandibles over it and keeping it the same functionally as a normal larva would do as a placeholder. Not to mention that if it was Trusted Members only the presence of the Predalien could be a great shakeup to gameplay on Predator rounds.

[Tristan63]

Time to machete riot shield duel it.

[qDan]

It sounds really cool but in current form Id prefer to -1, due to the balance reasons. Right now, games with predators usually consist of 2-3 preds on 60-80 pop and they can bring worst nightmares in reality by working together against one side.
Of cause, proper predators will hunt aluems first (at least in majority of times), while rarely chasing marine officers, command staff and unlucky solo's. Predaliens from other hand - always hostile to humans and they will be definitely stronger than all T2 and early T3 warrior caste xenos.

Personally Id prefer separating predator team on hunters and predaliens from the round beginning in 2:1 proportion instead of facehugging preds. This will 1) add real valuable objective (grand hunt) to predators team instead of simple derping around Nexus and Hive, 2) will reduce pressure for both aluems and humanz because predalien will be priority for preds, 3) (optional) possibility for aluems to strengthen their ranks in case of successful protection of predalien from predators and chance to loot or honorably get weapons and other stuff from predators for marines.

[Iatots]

This pops up every few weeks. Everyone knows about them and everyone wants them in, the game is just not ready for it yet; When it is, expect some coder to announce so.

[rankdiRty]

I would +1 as long as there was some more balancing. Marines seem kind of weak as they are, so having a predalien thrown in there would be certain doom. I must however agree that the variety would be cool.

[Snypehunter007]

Duplicate: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=6795

Asking this to be locked.

[forwardslashN]

Resolved.