What can the marines do to give give command more insight on the field?

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What can the marines do to give give command more insight on the field?

Post by Recounted » 02 Nov 2016, 16:44

No matter how many times command ask the Squad leaders of each squad, to just give a update over the battlefield. And more than often it don't work at all, why though? mainly cause the lack of communication which I seen happen all the time over the battlefield happens. I get it during the heat of the battle it's hard as fuck to update command how the situation is unfolding not to mention typing and shooting is a pain to multitask.

Giving more insight on this, this is how most situations unfold and how marines lose more than often thanks to the lack of communication;
-25 minutes into a fight marines start getting a good push on the xenos. Suddenly command starts saying marines are losing ground and tell them to fall back to X. Causing marines who just landed to hold at the said place and not help, resulting in marines losing ground thanks to no reinforcements coming and xenos begin to win again.

-xenos start getting the upper hand on marines, marines start to fall back to X, COMMAND says to push forward on some assault or something. Not even aware of the situation marines attempt to push back again only to get hit hard by xenos, forcing them to just retreat back to fob and tulte

this is just a few examples of how command is just not aware of how the situations turns out to be. Sure a marine or two can say whats happening but im sure that command just disregards that and continue on with whatever the fuck they are doing. IS this just cause of having a bad round with SL's and a baldie co? sure probably but this needs to be brought up since the one thing that marines are lacking on is communication.
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Re: What can the marines do to give give command more insight on the field?

Post by TopHatPenguin » 02 Nov 2016, 17:00

I believe one of the most common issues for communication on marine side is that players tend to only talk outside of combat zones and areas they know as 'safe zones' that's not to say everyone is mute outside these areas but it is definitely more the fact that marine players will speak short and sweet outside (i.e. fuck, wait!, Stop!, Big red,Fast one etc.)of the Fob and other safe spaces compared to inside any of the safe spaces due to the ever longing fear and paranoia that a xeno will pop up and nab you/kill ya.

There's also the fact that some players are slow typers, like myself so getting info around to command generally only happens at the Fob or another safe space, compared to on the frontlines.


One of the reasons I believe this doesn't affect aliens is due to how losing health/being injured isn't as much of a problem as it's roughly just a 1-2 minute fix or a tad longer depending on the damage sustained.

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Post by Eenkogneeto » 02 Nov 2016, 17:19

I try to keep command in the loop but usually they dont listen to me and frequently they ignore me.
I've been given full control of when to retreat off the planet before only for the PO to turn around and steal all my sentrys and cause us to lose the planet which we could have easily defended another 30 minutes atleast.
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Post by Jakers457 » 03 Nov 2016, 11:02

Whenever I BO. I have cameras rigged up on the Rasp and pod. Then I'll get some Combat Engies to set up a camera network around the FoB. A well set up camera network is almost invaluable for evacs, defenses and keeping an eye on the vicinity. I've been tempted to assign a squad sapper duties, setting up cameras through out the compound but to be honest, it's hard enough getting them to set up cameras with the exception of a few talented engineers.
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Post by Simo94 » 04 Nov 2016, 12:42

I feel like there should be a tcomms guy in each squad with a giant radio on his backpack slot, like those guys on WWII that call for artillery attacks

also isnt it weird how xenos have no overwatch or cameras and are far more organised? lol
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Post by Gentlefood » 04 Nov 2016, 17:28

Build security cameras everywhere. Either find, bring, or build an autolathe and put sec cameras up everywhere.

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Post by Renomaki » 04 Nov 2016, 17:34

Gentlefood wrote:Build security cameras everywhere. Either find, bring, or build an autolathe and put sec cameras up everywhere.
Amusing how this is slowly becoming some new kind of meta, where in order to compensate for fallen SLs, squads are suddenly being put on camera duty and providing more eyes for command to use on the ground.

Is it a bit out of place for a search and rescue mission? Maybe, but eh, if the admins aren't complaining, I suppose it is fair game.
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Post by Recounted » 04 Nov 2016, 18:51

Gentlefood wrote:Build security cameras everywhere. Either find, bring, or build an autolathe and put sec cameras up everywhere.
how often is it when command actually use cameras? I barely use them when im in command.
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Post by Recounted » 04 Nov 2016, 18:54

Recounted wrote:how often is it when command actually use cameras? I barely use them when im in command.
And I don't mean for SL cameras, just the regular ones that are already around the sulaco
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Post by RuiXon » 04 Nov 2016, 20:15

Recounted wrote:how often is it when command actually use cameras? I barely use them when im in command.
Everyone I see, including myself, in Command switches between those cameras all the time. Its better because you're not stuck to a SL that may or may not get themselves killed or just staring at a wall giving you nothing to look at. If you're not giving them at least a glance then you're doing command wrong, no offense.

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